Iron Mike Tyson vs. Wladimir Klitschko

[rjj tszyu]

I was a huge Tyson fan! I think he would KO Wlad inside 5 rounds! I actually think Vitali would have a shot at beating him. I don't think Tyson could KO Vitali and over 12 rounds (if you look at success that Bonecrusher had at times and Tucker at points during their fight), Vitali may have a shot. Dunno

Listen to yourself Big H, Bone crusher did sweet FA all the fight except right at the end. James lost every round. Tucker landed one uppercut in the first round. That was it. You had to count the times Tyson was hit properly on one hand in his prime, it was that rare.

Fighting who though? His opposition was poor in the 80's. The best opponent he faced in his "prime" was an over the hill Larry Holmes. I'd have taken a prime Larry to outbox Tyson.

I can't decide who would win between Tyson and Wlad but Wlad now is far better than any of Tysons opposition in his so called prime. Wlad would certainly give Tyson plenty to think about and if he just tried rushing in all night there is certainly a danger he will end up eating a lot of jabs and being worn down and stopped.

[TysonBomb]

I was a huge Tyson fan! I think he would KO Wlad inside 5 rounds! I actually think Vitali would have a shot at beating him. I don't think Tyson could KO Vitali and over 12 rounds (if you look at success that Bonecrusher had at times and Tucker at points during their fight), Vitali may have a shot. Dunno

Listen to yourself Big H, Bone crusher did sweet FA all the fight except right at the end. James lost every round. Tucker landed one uppercut in the first round. That was it. You had to count the times Tyson was hit properly on one hand in his prime, it was that rare.

Fighting who though? His opposition was poor in the 80's. The best opponent he faced in his "prime" was an over the hill Larry Holmes. I'd have taken a prime Larry to outbox Tyson.

I can't decide who would win between Tyson and Wlad but Wlad now is far better than any of Tysons opposition in his so called prime. Wlad would certainly give Tyson plenty to think about and if he just tried rushing in all night there is certainly a danger he will end up eating a lot of jabs and being worn down and stopped.

If Tysons opposition was "poor" then what words describe glass jaw Wlad's competition Piss poor laughable and pathetic?? What does it mean when a C rated retired S African golfer who was around a 40-1 underdog can destroy him?

Spinks was an undefeated gold medalist and is lauded as one of the greatest LHW ever and Tyson annihilated him in 91 seconds. The man was coming off from three HUGE wins, two decisions over Holmes and a TKO victory over Cooney. Holmes was hardly over the hill or washed up, look at his record after Tyson and the names he has on his resume. Tyson was the only man to ever KO Holmes. Tony Tucker was also an excellent undefeated boxer with an excellent chin, great jab and was very athletic and mobile and at 6'5" he should've been able to keep Mike who was 6 inches shorter at bay with the jab yet he couldn't ... he even gave Lennox Lewis a hell of a fight even when he was past his prime. Lewis who is said to have a good resume has a bunch of Tyson left overs.

The fact that you can't decide destroys your credibility ... Tyson was a master at avoiding the jab and getting in range to get his punches off. Tyson would show no respect to him and if Wlad tries to actually fight with the man he's getting sent out on a stretcher within the first 30 seconds ... if Wlad decides to hold he lasts a little longer before Tyson crushes him. Tyson was able to out jab jabbers like Tony Tucker, he could probably out jab Wlad too.

If David Haye can dodge and avoid combinations from Wlad then what makes you think Iron Mike Tyson can't?? Tyson's defense and chin were first rate. It was hard to tag the guy with anything, even Larry Holmes who had the best jab ever couldn't keep Tyson away.

The only punch that Tyson was really vulnerable too was the uppercut, and Wlad doesn't have the punch in his arsenal.

If Tyson can KO guys that had never been KOed before like Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, and Larry Holmes what makes you think GLASS JAWED Wlad has a chance?? Tysons wins over a prime Razor Ruddock are easily greater than anything on Wlad's resume ... Ruddock was the most dangerous and feared heavyweight at the time and Tyson soundly defeated him in both fights and nearly ended his career ... he broke his jaw and ribs and Ruddock was never the same after that.

[IamInuit]

The prime Mike Tyson rips Wlads head off. Wlad has no chance in changing this to a scrap in a swimming pool.

[TysonBomb]

The prime Mike Tyson rips Wlads head off. Wlad has no chance in changing this to a scrap in a swimming pool.

Prime Tyson was terror personified ... Wlad would never have a chance

NO ONE ever had the combination of power, speed, athleticism, skill, punching ability, elusiveness and durability that he had.

Easily top 5 all time in power
Easily top 5 all time in hand speed among the heavyweights
One of the best chins in heavyweight history, one of the hardest guys to ever hit and probably the best combination puncher in the history of the heavyweight division and definitely the most ferocious boxer that ever lived.

Wlad has 2 choices: Get DQ'ed for holding or get KTFO

[Majesty]

Cus would have trained Tyson how to deal with Wlad's jab when it comes down to what Wlad does it's a very basic style, he's very effective at, nothing flashy at all about it.

But Cus would make Tyson avoid that jab and punish Wladmir to the body, Tyson's head movement and counter punching was very underrated and every time Wladimir reached with that jab his ribs would get punished, that plus Tyson's combination punching once he got inside would have hurt him. Also, Wladimir's love of holding I don't think he'd have faced someone quite as strong as Tyson was on the inside, and his arms would have freed up some body punching with the free hand and as hard as Tyson hit I don't know how much holding he'd want to do.

Tyson would break him down with his body punching, counter punching head movement, all around aggression and speed. I'd say an 8th round knockout for Tyson winning 5 rounds to 2 by the time of the knockout. Tyson's ability to bullrush you while avoiding every punch you were throwing to keep him off was something special to watch. Wladimir just wouldn't have been able to deal with it. Tyson's pace alone would be unlike anything he's had to deal with prior.

[TysonBomb]

Cus would have trained Tyson how to deal with Wlad's jab when it comes down to what Wlad does it's a very basic style, he's very effective at, nothing flashy at all about it.

But Cus would make Tyson avoid that jab and punish Wladmir to the body, Tyson's head movement and counter punching was very underrated and every time Wladimir reached with that jab his ribs would get punished, that plus Tyson's combination punching once he got inside would have hurt him. Also, Wladimir's love of holding I don't think he'd have faced someone quite as strong as Tyson was on the inside, and his arms would have freed up some body punching with the free hand and as hard as Tyson hit I don't know how much holding he'd want to do.

Tyson would break him down with his body punching, counter punching head movement, all around aggression and speed. I'd say an 8th round knockout for Tyson winning 5 rounds to 2 by the time of the knockout. Tyson's ability to bullrush you while avoiding every punch you were throwing to keep him off was something special to watch. Wladimir just wouldn't have been able to deal with it. Tyson's pace alone would be unlike anything he's had to deal with prior.

Wlad doesn't last that long ... Vitali might, but Wlad would be finished within 2 or 3 max

[IamInuit]

The Wlad prior to Manny teaching him how to clinch and lean on would have been killed. Worse then Louis/Carnera. Wlads epiphany style of grappling when threatened may win him the day if he were fighting the same Tyson Douglas did.

[TysonBomb]

The Wlad prior to Manny teaching him how to clinch and lean on would have been killed. Worse then Louis/Carnera. Wlads epiphany style of grappling when threatened may win him the day if he were fighting the same Tyson Douglas did.

That 8th round uppercut that Douglas took would've smashed Wlad's jaw, broken his neck and leave him convulsing on the canvas

[generalbulldog]

Wlad's chin is so bad, I say Tyson probably wobbles him by throwing one of his famous forearms or elbows during the clinches. So Tyson brutally kos him within 3. With Vitali I say it goes the distance but who wins is a different kind of question.

[El Kabong]

The chin is the only issue for Wlad. Other than that, his style is great to go against Tyson. Tyson would more than likely catch Wlad and follow up maybe around 2-5. If Wlad makes it past 5 its his fight to lose.

Tyson doesn't beat Vitali.

[El Kabong]

All this "Tyson was unbeatable with Cus" is bullcrap. Tyson was vulnerable and he would have been battered by plenty of fighters.

[TysonBomb]

The chin is the only issue for Wlad. Other than that, his style is great to go against Tyson. Tyson would more than likely catch Wlad and follow up maybe around 2-5. If Wlad makes it past 5 its his fight to lose.

Tyson doesn't beat Vitali.

Vitali couldnt beat an old, shot Lewis who took the fight against him on short notice after Vitali paid Kirk Johnson to let him fight Lewis instead

He nearly gets blinded and has half of his face mauled off against the only ATG (who was practically retired at the time) he faces and he's going to last against Tyson?

Please try and rationally explain how he's going to beat Tyson when pension collecting, retired shot Corrie Sanders nearly had him out in round 1? If Sanders' hand speed bothered him then imagine what his fate would be against Iron Mike? That stupid awkward style of his is exactly what Mike preys on. Tyson was the master at punching at angles ... he would get in range and start pounding his body and Vitali would lean back and back track towards the ropes where he would be at Mike's mercy.

If an athletic, mobile stone chinned Tony Tucker who was far more skilled than Vitali loses a decision against Mike then how would Vitali survive? You need more than just size to beat Mike ... Vitali will either hold and lose a decision or get stopped in the middle rounds. Vitali doesn't have the power to make Tyson earn his respect nor does he have the skill to keep him away.

Vitali couldn't even hit Chris Byrd clean and damaged his shoulder from MISSING. Tyson would put a beat down on him. I see him being finished the same way Bruno was in the second Tyson fight ... getting mauled when trying to hold on for dear life.

Vitali is only a "beast" in Klitschko land, full of fantasies and myths. In reality his record is piss poor, even worst than Wlad's and he never even fought a contender ranked higher than #3. His style of keeping his hands low and chin exposed will spell disaster for his chances against the most accurate, most powerful, explosive boxer to ever live. A lethal, lighting fast combination started with a right hook to the body, left hook to the jaw followed up with another right to the head of Vitali Klitschko would end his night.

All this "Tyson was unbeatable with Cus" is bullcrap. Tyson was vulnerable and he would have been battered by plenty of fighters.

Please tell me any fight that Tyson looked "vulnerable" from when Cus was around? Or rather I'll extend this to include Rooney.

[TitoFan]

The chin is the only issue for Wlad. Other than that, his style is great to go against Tyson. Tyson would more than likely catch Wlad and follow up maybe around 2-5. If Wlad makes it past 5 its his fight to lose.

Tyson doesn't beat Vitali.

Ok buddy who the fuck are you and what did you do with Lyle?

[Vendettos]

Everyone seems to be comparing to the Knockoutable Wlad of old. Manny Stewart changed his defence and basically his entire style when it comes to movement.

Wlad now very rarely get hit at all, and it has been years since he was last badly troubled.

I agree Mike Tyson on '88 would have beaten Wlad, but that wouldnt be because of wlads "Glass Chin".

That would simple be because NOBODY could have stopped Tyson in '88.

[imp]

Prime tyson beats any wlad.
Prime tyson beats any vitali.

Try to ignore hindsight in any of our answers and just jump back in time and put the klit brothers in the ring with a prime tyson.

Vitali is stronger and would have had the better chance but the brothers dont handle speed to well and mike tyson is one the most fastest and peek a boo explosive heavyweight fighters of all time.

I agree with the comment mentioned about Wlad being another weaker version of lennox lewis but with a weaker chin and far more defensive.

Wlad is a far better fighter guy now and comes across very well as a champion but its very obvious the answer to this one.