Roach thinks JMM is on the roids!!

[TysonBomb]

JMM looks like a miniature Wlad

He probably found Pac's stash of designer anabolics and is now using them for himself

On a serious note, both of these guys should be tested

[ross]

Any athlete now that is doing something remarkable I have a hard time believing. Look at Hopkins. We all just think thats clean living but we are too naive to even entertain the thought that a man of 47 can be a world champion amd have continuous succuess up to that point too.

Other fighters that a cynic like myself thinks is blatantly obvious of taking something just because they moved up and still look ripped, Adamek, Haye, Martinez, Green and there will deffinitly be a shit load of heavies doing it. The Klitschkos, seeing as one has already been found out as a cheater.

I wouldnt be surprised if anybody was found to be cheating now and I agree, test everyone. Its only fair.

I also agree that Marquez has come up in weight and still looks very strong but he doesnt look half the body builder that Manny does.

[TysonBomb]

Any athlete now that is doing something remarkable I have a hard time believing. Look at Hopkins. We all just think thats clean living but we are too naive to even entertain the thought that a man of 47 can be a world champion amd have continuous succuess up to that point too.

Other fighters that a cynic like myself thinks is blatantly obvious of taking something just because they moved up and still look ripped, Adamek, Haye, Martinez, Green and there will deffinitly be a shit load of heavies doing it. The Klitschkos, seeing as one has already been found out as a cheater.

I wouldnt be surprised if anybody was found to be cheating now and I agree, test everyone. Its only fair.

I also agree that Marquez has come up in weight and still looks very strong but he doesnt look half the body builder that Manny does.

Even if their not intentionally taking any kind of PED, such as anabolic steroids, there's no doubt they're taking supplements that may be legal to obtain but appear on the banned substances list.

Roy Jones Jr was taking an over the counter androgen without even knowing that it was banned, or so he claims. Some stuff that may have been legal to use and purchase in the past may be illegal to use now.

Point is that a lot of these guys are definitely on something, whether they know it or not ( such as Mosley, who claims he didn't know he was taking PEDs), or whether they took these substances with the intent of using them as PEDs.

And boxing is already the most corrupt sport there is, minus all of this PED stuff. Pretty amazing that Arum and Top Rank can choose for their fighters to not be tested. Testing should be required, especially for all major bouts.

[ross]

Any athlete now that is doing something remarkable I have a hard time believing. Look at Hopkins. We all just think thats clean living but we are too naive to even entertain the thought that a man of 47 can be a world champion amd have continuous succuess up to that point too.

Other fighters that a cynic like myself thinks is blatantly obvious of taking something just because they moved up and still look ripped, Adamek, Haye, Martinez, Green and there will deffinitly be a shit load of heavies doing it. The Klitschkos, seeing as one has already been found out as a cheater.

I wouldnt be surprised if anybody was found to be cheating now and I agree, test everyone. Its only fair.

I also agree that Marquez has come up in weight and still looks very strong but he doesnt look half the body builder that Manny does.

Even if their not intentionally taking any kind of PED, such as anabolic steroids, there's no doubt they're taking supplements that may be legal to obtain but appear on the banned substances list.

Roy Jones Jr was taking an over the counter androgen without even knowing that it was banned, or so he claims. Some stuff that may have been legal to use and purchase in the past may be illegal to use now.

Point is that a lot of these guys are definitely on something, whether they know it or not ( such as Mosley, who claims he didn't know he was taking PEDs), or whether they took these substances with the intent of using them as PEDs.

And boxing is already the most corrupt sport there is, minus all of this PED stuff. Pretty amazing that Arum and Top Rank can choose for their fighters to not be tested. Testing should be required, especially for all major bouts.

Dont know where you got that but Mosely knew damn well he was cheating and that he was taking EPO. He even admitted so in court. Watch the whole of this video.

Shane Mosley Admits to Knowingly Using EPO in Lawsuit Against BALCO's Victor Conte - YouTube

It bugs me how most boxing fans especially on this forum think that Mosely is so great even though he is an admitted cheating little cunt.

[imp]

Any athlete now that is doing something remarkable I have a hard time believing. Look at Hopkins. We all just think thats clean living but we are too naive to even entertain the thought that a man of 47 can be a world champion amd have continuous succuess up to that point too.

Other fighters that a cynic like myself thinks is blatantly obvious of taking something just because they moved up and still look ripped, Adamek, Haye, Martinez, Green and there will deffinitly be a shit load of heavies doing it. The Klitschkos, seeing as one has already been found out as a cheater.

I wouldnt be surprised if anybody was found to be cheating now and I agree, test everyone. Its only fair.

I also agree that Marquez has come up in weight and still looks very strong but he doesnt look half the body builder that Manny does.

Even if their not intentionally taking any kind of PED, such as anabolic steroids, there's no doubt they're taking supplements that may be legal to obtain but appear on the banned substances list.

Roy Jones Jr was taking an over the counter androgen without even knowing that it was banned, or so he claims. Some stuff that may have been legal to use and purchase in the past may be illegal to use now.

Point is that a lot of these guys are definitely on something, whether they know it or not ( such as Mosley, who claims he didn't know he was taking PEDs), or whether they took these substances with the intent of using them as PEDs.

And boxing is already the most corrupt sport there is, minus all of this PED stuff. Pretty amazing that Arum and Top Rank can choose for their fighters to not be tested. Testing should be required, especially for all major bouts.

Dont know where you got that but Mosely knew damn well he was cheating and that he was taking EPO. He even admitted so in court. Watch the whole of this video.

Shane Mosley Admits to Knowingly Using EPO in Lawsuit Against BALCO's Victor Conte - YouTube

It bugs me how most boxing fans especially on this forum think that Mosely is so great even though he is an admitted cheating little cunt.

Lol. Very true.

[bzkfn]

Could be some truth here yeno. If Roach is openly accusing JMM on being on something, then maybe Freddie supplied it.

[Tam Seddon]

Photos: Manny Pacquiao Ripped and Ready For Marquez - Boxing News

Manny is in decent shape too though.

[TysonBomb]

Any athlete now that is doing something remarkable I have a hard time believing. Look at Hopkins. We all just think thats clean living but we are too naive to even entertain the thought that a man of 47 can be a world champion amd have continuous succuess up to that point too.

Other fighters that a cynic like myself thinks is blatantly obvious of taking something just because they moved up and still look ripped, Adamek, Haye, Martinez, Green and there will deffinitly be a shit load of heavies doing it. The Klitschkos, seeing as one has already been found out as a cheater.

I wouldnt be surprised if anybody was found to be cheating now and I agree, test everyone. Its only fair.

I also agree that Marquez has come up in weight and still looks very strong but he doesnt look half the body builder that Manny does.

Even if their not intentionally taking any kind of PED, such as anabolic steroids, there's no doubt they're taking supplements that may be legal to obtain but appear on the banned substances list.

Roy Jones Jr was taking an over the counter androgen without even knowing that it was banned, or so he claims. Some stuff that may have been legal to use and purchase in the past may be illegal to use now.

Point is that a lot of these guys are definitely on something, whether they know it or not ( such as Mosley, who claims he didn't know he was taking PEDs), or whether they took these substances with the intent of using them as PEDs.

And boxing is already the most corrupt sport there is, minus all of this PED stuff. Pretty amazing that Arum and Top Rank can choose for their fighters to not be tested. Testing should be required, especially for all major bouts.

Dont know where you got that but Mosely knew damn well he was cheating and that he was taking EPO. He even admitted so in court. Watch the whole of this video.

Shane Mosley Admits to Knowingly Using EPO in Lawsuit Against BALCO's Victor Conte - YouTube

It bugs me how most boxing fans especially on this forum think that Mosely is so great even though he is an admitted cheating little cunt.

It sounds like he doesn't even know what EPO is or what it does, at least that's what he's making it seem like.

[ross]

It sounds like he doesn't even know what EPO is or what it does, at least that's what he's making it seem like.

He admitted he knew what it was. He could have said he had no idea but he admitted he knew.

You can be sure someone like Conte would have made it quite clear to the athletes exactly what it was they were taking for when the shit hit the fan and he didnt have to go down alone.

Mosely looks sheepish like a kid admitting to his dad that he scratched his new car. He knows this is going to get seen by all his dopey, dumb, naive, fans.

[TysonBomb]

It sounds like he doesn't even know what EPO is or what it does, at least that's what he's making it seem like.

He admitted he knew what it was. He could have said he had no idea but he admitted he knew.

You can be sure someone like Conte would have made it quite clear to the athletes exactly what it was they were taking for when the shit hit the fan and he didnt have to go down alone.

Mosely looks sheepish like a kid admitting to his dad that he scratched his new car. He knows this is going to get seen by all his dopey, dumb, naive, fans.

then he should get an asterisk next to his victories ... how can you play dumb and then admit you knew what you were doing??

[Violent Demise]

Roach has gone from begin brain damage to brain dead

[Beanflicker]

I think Marquez was implicated by Victor Conte once.

The sad fact we have to realize is that PEDs are just another part of the sport now. Has JMM used? Probably. But Roach should shut his mouth, because Manny is probably the most suspect guy in the sport.

Anyone who knows about working out knows how hard it is to put on 15-20lbs of lean muscle mass, especially when you are simultaneously undergoing incredibly strenuous cardio/endurance training.

For some things, simple "hard work" doesn't cut it.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

people remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoElrXBBRc

[Howlin Mad Missy]

people remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoElrXBBRc

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...Ga3nmzRo0&NR=1

[armin]

According to many he'd be making it a fair fight if he's juicing. Seriously tho roach surely must just be trying to create some controvery I mean he can't be that oblivious to how ironic it is.