Iron Mike Tyson vs. Wladimir Klitschko

[El Kabong]

He does clinch but it's not like Tyson never clinched. Tyson clinched to use his bully tactics, the forearm in the throat, the elbows and forehead, but he also clinched to get rest on the inside because it was safer than staying on the outside because with footwork one could put him in range quickly. Tyson would clinch if he messed up his own footwork or angle of attack.

Wlad does it more but for both Wlad and Tyson it's strategic. Ali used to clinch too I don't see people bitching about that, where were you guys when Ali was all over Frazier's neck?

[ninjaspy3]

He does clinch but it's not like Tyson never clinched. Tyson clinched to use his bully tactics, the forearm in the throat, the elbows and forehead, but he also clinched to get rest on the inside because it was safer than staying on the outside because with footwork one could put him in range quickly. Tyson would clinch if he messed up his own footwork or angle of attack.

Wlad does it more but for both Wlad and Tyson it's strategic. Ali used to clinch too I don't see people bitching about that, where were you guys when Ali was all over Frazier's neck?

Im glad you mentioned that fight as I really needed to rewatch it. There was a bit of clinching and leaning by Ali, but perhaps a bit less so. To Fraziers credit, he was pretty relentless and decently fast with head movement. Showed good examples of counter attacking after making Ali miss.

[Master]

where were you guys when Ali was all over Frazier's neck?

We were in our prams.

[El Kabong]

where were you guys when Ali was all over Frazier's neck?

We were in our prams.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Unfortunately for Tyson, Wlad is much smarter and disciplined than him. Wlad would hug him down, maybe even get a point deducted , then knock Tyson the fuck out late. No shame in that consdering tyson tried to break numerous fighters arms and was a very dirty fighter...i could also see him getting disqualified here, He was too easily frusrated and had the boxing brain of a pygmie. Raw power and rage works fine on bum but....

To even compare K2 to a rapist i find insulting! Tyson needs a fuckin bone through his nose...

[IamInuit]

Unfortunately for Tyson, Wlad is much smarter and disciplined than him. Wlad would hug him down, maybe even get a point deducted , then knock Tyson the fuck out late. No shame in that consdering tyson tried to break numerous fighters arms and was a very dirty fighter...i could also see him getting disqualified here, He was too easily frusrated and had the boxing brain of a pygmie. Raw power and rage works fine on bum but....

To even compare K2 to a rapist i find insulting! Tyson needs a fuckin bone through his nose...

And you need a white pointed hat atop your head. Just unbelievable man. Racist bullshit that has no business on a quality boxing forum.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

And you need a white pointed hat atop your head. Just unbelievable man. Racist bullshit that has no business on a quality boxing forum.

Racist? Fuckoff! A lot of posting on this forum is thinly veiled racism IMO. Double standards and hypocrisy. The nose through the bone comment was referencing cavemen and had nothing to do with being black! U Sensitive pincushin u.

Tyson was fuckin retarded, he raped and beat women and acted like a fuckin animal in the ring. Yet the problem is posters like me? Something seriousy fucked up with boxing fans! Racist..no!

[Master]

And you need a white pointed hat atop your head. Just unbelievable man. Racist bullshit that has no business on a quality boxing forum.

Racist? Fuckoff! A lot of posting on this forum is thinly veiled racism IMO. Double standards and hypocrisy. The nose through the bone comment was referencing cavemen and had nothing to do with being black! U Sensitive pincushin u.

Tyson was fuckin retarded, he raped and beat women and acted like a fuckin animal in the ring. Yet the problem is posters like me? Something seriousy fucked up with boxing fans! Racist..no!

Nothing is wrong with us, you made the stupid comment and just because no one agrees with you, then you say boxing fans are wrong. For a Philosopher you sure are dumb.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Nothing is wrong with us, you made the stupid comment and just because no one agrees with you, then you say boxing fans are wrong. For a Philosopher you sure are dumb.

Oh winnie....You are my favourite! I hope u are not still upset that one of your undefeated hopes lost to K2's....ermhh trainer? LOL. Never mind Deontay wilder is fighting there nutritionist next month!

[Andre]

And you need a white pointed hat atop your head. Just unbelievable man. Racist bullshit that has no business on a quality boxing forum.

Racist? Fuckoff! A lot of posting on this forum is thinly veiled racism IMO. Double standards and hypocrisy. The nose through the bone comment was referencing cavemen and had nothing to do with being black! U Sensitive pincushin u.

Tyson was fuckin retarded, he raped and beat women and acted like a fuckin animal in the ring. Yet the problem is posters like me? Something seriousy fucked up with boxing fans! Racist..no!

I took your first post to mean tribal/neanderthal like, as in beat women over head with club,rape etc and far removed from being technical.
I didnt read skin color into it only mentality.
I didnt like the man back then either he didnt think about anyone but himself and so he eventually attracted the exact same people into his life and paid for it.

[IamInuit]

And you need a white pointed hat atop your head. Just unbelievable man. Racist bullshit that has no business on a quality boxing forum.

Racist? Fuckoff! A lot of posting on this forum is thinly veiled racism IMO. Double standards and hypocrisy. The nose through the bone comment was referencing cavemen and had nothing to do with being black! U Sensitive pincushin u.

Tyson was fuckin retarded, he raped and beat women and acted like a fuckin animal in the ring. Yet the problem is posters like me? Something seriousy fucked up with boxing fans! Racist..no!

You fuck-off tadpole and take your racist fucking rants and shove them up your ass. You crossed the line Jethro and all the back peddling bullshit changes nothing. Its one thing to think Wlad beats him but its quite another to spew the shit you do when a debate does not go your way.


In the future I will apply this maxim to you which is credited to Mark Twain but its origin is actually unknown.

Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Asswipe racist tool.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

You fuck-off tadpole and take your racist fucking rants and shove them up your ass. You crossed the line Jethro and all the back peddling bullshit changes nothing. Its one thing to think Wlad beats him but its quite another to spew the shit you do when a debate does not go your way.

In the future I will apply this maxim to you which is credited to Mark Twain but its origin is actually unknown.

Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Asswipe racist tool.

There is no question that race played a part in the interplay between me & these individuals. What i mean by that is Neanderthal and Homo Sapien. I was referring to the man's tribal mentality, not his skin colour! For the overly sensitive amongst us i apologise that u miscontrude it that way. For the asswipe above please provide evidence that i am a racist? A bone through the nose does not imply racist. Dramatist.

Take note Hollywood.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I see dumb people!

[ninjaspy3]

I see dumb people!

looking in a mirror again hm?

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Oh ninja u wit you! Well done oscar wilde.

LOL.