Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
He does clinch but it's not like Tyson never clinched. Tyson clinched to use his bully tactics, the forearm in the throat, the elbows and forehead, but he also clinched to get rest on the inside because it was safer than staying on the outside because with footwork one could put him in range quickly. Tyson would clinch if he messed up his own footwork or angle of attack.

Wlad does it more but for both Wlad and Tyson it's strategic. Ali used to clinch too I don't see people bitching about that, where were you guys when Ali was all over Frazier's neck?
Im glad you mentioned that fight as I really needed to rewatch it. There was a bit of clinching and leaning by Ali, but perhaps a bit less so. To Fraziers credit, he was pretty relentless and decently fast with head movement. Showed good examples of counter attacking after making Ali miss.