Miguel Cotto vs Austin Trout - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[Mars_ax]

And the judges officially say: Trout wins a UD 117-111 x 2 and 119-109, what fight did that judge watch?.

I officially can not listen to Pauli & Ranello, I had these 2 clowns on mute the whole fight.

[Mars_ax]

Trout clearly won the fight, but it wasn't too fucking thrilling. In my humble opinion, I believe Trout gives Canelo a run for his money if this fight gets scheduled next.

A few observations: Trout looked bigger, took Cotto's punches well, and controlled much of the fight. Cotto looked shop worn, but gave it his all which simply wasn't enough.

Onward to Pacquiao-Marquez IV next weekend on HBO PPV.

[Tam Seddon]

Trout was impressive last night, I'm gutted Cotto couldn't win but trout simply was the bigger man In there and it showed. He control the fight with his long jab and looked good on the inside too, he rocked Cotto quite a few times too.

I don't know where Cotto goes from here but he will be pissed after last night, I hope he does fight again but for how long he does is another question.

[Beanflicker]

And the judges officially say: Trout wins a UD 117-111 x 2 and 119-109, what fight did that judge watch?.

I officially can not listen to Pauli & Ranello, I had these 2 clowns on mute the whole fight.

I've hated Ranello for a long time, had to deal with his corny ass for 8 years from watching MMA. He's always been shit IMO. Paulie has potential IMO but is still "finding his voice" as a commentator I guess.

As for the fight... I had it 117-111, agreed with the 2 judges. I don't think Trout won 11 rounds like one judge though, but at least they gave it to the right guy.

It would have been a crying shame if they screwed Trout out of that hard-fought victory.

Cotto has done big things in the boxing game, and I think if he's thinking about retirement then this may be an opportune time to go through with it. He's had some tough wars, best to quit and get into the promoting game so he can live with a good quality of life after boxing. Either way I wish him the best because he was a hell of a fighter.

[Mars_ax]

And the judges officially say: Trout wins a UD 117-111 x 2 and 119-109, what fight did that judge watch?.

I officially can not listen to Pauli & Ranello, I had these 2 clowns on mute the whole fight.

I've hated Ranello for a long time, had to deal with his corny ass for 8 years from watching MMA. He's always been shit IMO. Paulie has potential IMO but is still "finding his voice" as a commentator I guess.

As for the fight... I had it 117-111, agreed with the 2 judges. I don't think Trout won 11 rounds like one judge though, but at least they gave it to the right guy.

It would have been a crying shame if they screwed Trout out of that hard-fought victory.

Cotto has done big things in the boxing game, and I think if he's thinking about retirement then this may be an opportune time to go through with it. He's had some tough wars, best to quit and get into the promoting game so he can live with a good quality of life after boxing. Either way I wish him the best because he was a hell of a fighter.

Pauli is just fucking sickening, I can't get behind any "man" that wears earrings, and looks and acts the way this clown does. I mean is this cat a straight up fag or what?
As for Miguel, in fairness Trout was bigger, and much better then people were giving him credit for being. I'm not so sure Cotto wouldn't do well against Alvarez, they're closer to the same size, but it remains to be seen if that fight ever happens.

[TitoFan]

I haven't read through the whole thread, but I agree that Cotto should retire. He gave it his best shot, but his punches weren't doing much to Trout. Cotto's face looked like hell after the fight. Also, Cotto's words sound like someone who's already got one foot out the door. He's got a wonderful family... and what man wouldn't want to spend time with that? I still think Cotto, for his size, did as much as he could at 154. That is not his best weight. That he won any championships at all at that weight is astounding. But Trout was younger, bigger, faster. I had a pretty good crowd over at the house watching the fight, and we got quieter and quieter as the fight went along. After 7-8 rounds... you sort of know where the fight is going.

On a happier note, I was ecstatic at seeing some good Puerto Rican prospects put in some very good efforts. Young blood coming up. That's what the sport's all about.

[J_C]

I had it 11-1 for 119-109.

I thought the cards were great, I was fearing some sort of sick robbery to rival the most sick. Sure you coulda had it a bit closer but Trout won with more than room to spare.

[armin]

I had it 11-1 for 119-109.

I thought the cards were great, I was fearing some sort of sick robbery to rival the most sick. Sure you coulda had it a bit closer but Trout won with more than room to spare.

Especially when they took as long as they did I thought they was shaftin trout glad boxing got it right, far to often that's not the case

[Rantcatrat]

I haven't read through the whole thread, but I agree that Cotto should retire. He gave it his best shot, but his punches weren't doing much to Trout. Cotto's face looked like hell after the fight. Also, Cotto's words sound like someone who's already got one foot out the door. He's got a wonderful family... and what man wouldn't want to spend time with that? I still think Cotto, for his size, did as much as he could at 154. That is not his best weight. That he won any championships at all at that weight is astounding. But Trout was younger, bigger, faster. I had a pretty good crowd over at the house watching the fight, and we got quieter and quieter as the fight went along. After 7-8 rounds... you sort of know where the fight is going.

On a happier note, I was ecstatic at seeing some good Puerto Rican prospects put in some very good efforts. Young blood coming up. That's what the sport's all about.

I completely agree. Cotto was at his best at 140, perhaps 147, but he's definitely undersized against true junior middleweights. He's a guy who would be best fighting at 147. Unfortunately, at his age, he can't get down to 147 anymore. Trout came on the big stage. The problem Trout has is that he doesn't have a big following and is not knockout artist. Clearly, he's a tougher opponent for Floyd Mayweather than Guerrero and for Canelo than Ortiz, but those guys are less risky, and Trout brings nothing besides a belt to the table.

Oh and @Mars - I completely disagree with regards to Paulie. He's a slick Italian from Staten Island. He's going to dress in flashy Dolce Gabanna suits. If you get passed his style, which doesn't agree with you, you'll warm up to his ability as an announcer. In my opinion, he is doing an excellent job as an announcer. I actually think he should consider permanently retiring from fighting to announce.

[Master]

Cotto was well beaten by the bigger and quality fighter. Cotto should try and fight Saul and call it quits if he loses.

[Nameless]

I was sure that Cotto would win that one by UD, seems like :

a) I underestimated the stigmatas from both fights with Pacaman and MArgarito
b) REally didn't know enough about Trout and clearly underestimated him.

I won't make these mistakes ever again. BEside, a fight with Canelo would be damn entertaining, I think that now it would make sense to make such happen.

[Mars_ax]

I haven't read through the whole thread, but I agree that Cotto should retire. He gave it his best shot, but his punches weren't doing much to Trout. Cotto's face looked like hell after the fight. Also, Cotto's words sound like someone who's already got one foot out the door. He's got a wonderful family... and what man wouldn't want to spend time with that? I still think Cotto, for his size, did as much as he could at 154. That is not his best weight. That he won any championships at all at that weight is astounding. But Trout was younger, bigger, faster. I had a pretty good crowd over at the house watching the fight, and we got quieter and quieter as the fight went along. After 7-8 rounds... you sort of know where the fight is going.

On a happier note, I was ecstatic at seeing some good Puerto Rican prospects put in some very good efforts. Young blood coming up. That's what the sport's all about.

I completely agree. Cotto was at his best at 140, perhaps 147, but he's definitely undersized against true junior middleweights. He's a guy who would be best fighting at 147. Unfortunately, at his age, he can't get down to 147 anymore. Trout came on the big stage. The problem Trout has is that he doesn't have a big following and is not knockout artist. Clearly, he's a tougher opponent for Floyd Mayweather than Guerrero and for Canelo than Ortiz, but those guys are less risky, and Trout brings nothing besides a belt to the table.

Oh and @Mars - I completely disagree with regards to Paulie. He's a slick Italian from Staten Island. He's going to dress in flashy Dolce Gabanna suits. If you get passed his style, which doesn't agree with you, you'll warm up to his ability as an announcer. In my opinion, he is doing an excellent job as an announcer. I actually think he should consider permanently retiring from fighting to announce.

Rantcat,
It's all good if you like Pauli, I just never have cared for the clown, different strokes for different folks. Right now, besides Brian Kenny, Gerbil Farhood and Barry Tompkins, i'm not really liking any of the Showtime crew, including Bernstein who I think is full of shit much of the time. Pauli, Ranello, and Bernstein get muted, not trying to argue that's just me.

[IamInuit]

I haven't read through the whole thread, but I agree that Cotto should retire. He gave it his best shot, but his punches weren't doing much to Trout. Cotto's face looked like hell after the fight. Also, Cotto's words sound like someone who's already got one foot out the door. He's got a wonderful family... and what man wouldn't want to spend time with that? I still think Cotto, for his size, did as much as he could at 154. That is not his best weight. That he won any championships at all at that weight is astounding. But Trout was younger, bigger, faster. I had a pretty good crowd over at the house watching the fight, and we got quieter and quieter as the fight went along. After 7-8 rounds... you sort of know where the fight is going.

On a happier note, I was ecstatic at seeing some good Puerto Rican prospects put in some very good efforts. Young blood coming up. That's what the sport's all about.

Well stated bud

[beenKOed]

And the judges officially say: Trout wins a UD 117-111 x 2 and 119-109, what fight did that judge watch?.

I officially can not listen to Pauli & Ranello, I had these 2 clowns on mute the whole fight.

I've hated Ranello for a long time, had to deal with his corny ass for 8 years from watching MMA. He's always been shit IMO. Paulie has potential IMO but is still "finding his voice" as a commentator I guess.

As for the fight... I had it 117-111, agreed with the 2 judges. I don't think Trout won 11 rounds like one judge though, but at least they gave it to the right guy.

It would have been a crying shame if they screwed Trout out of that hard-fought victory.

Cotto has done big things in the boxing game, and I think if he's thinking about retirement then this may be an opportune time to go through with it. He's had some tough wars, best to quit and get into the promoting game so he can live with a good quality of life after boxing. Either way I wish him the best because he was a hell of a fighter.

Mauro Domenico Antonio Ranallo, how can you not like a guy with a strong name like that.

Seriously, I like the way he gets excited, just like most of us do and goes on and on. Hell, he'd fit right in at my house on fight night.

He keeps his job by acting natural and letting the words flow which adds to the excitement. He says what he thinks and is never short on words.

Jim Grey is the guy I'd like to see take a permanent vacation. Grey can ask the stupidest questions, in my opinion. My idea of hell would be having to listening to Jim Grey or Larry Merchant interviewing fighters.

I like Mauro and hope they keep him around.

[outspoken]

Just saw the fight it sucked to see Cotto get beat like that especially after the good performance he gave vs Mayweather. I still want to see him fight again maybe fight guerrero I think thats a fight cotto can win as he can over power the smaller guy.