Re: Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN F

Originally Posted by
TysonBomb

Originally Posted by
Fenster

Originally Posted by
imp

Originally Posted by
Fenster

Originally Posted by
imp
Well darius must be the true p4p champ then. Roy didnt have time to weight for darius he was to busy winning heavyweight championships..was that less of a risk?
Darius was to busy trying to be next rocky marciano while roy was making history in multi weight divisons.
Roy already got the worst decision in history at the olympics you cant blame him for not wanting to travel when the most money can be made in america.
And lets not talk common opponents between these two as im sure its apparent who had the harder road..!
Roy couldn't wait for him? Michalczewski was lineal champ from 97 to 2003, Roy was a lightheavy from 97 to 2003 before facing Ruiz. And that heavyweight title is meaningless too, Lewis was the lineal champ, Ruiz just had a belt Lewis discarded.
P4P is decided by peoples opinion. There are no certainties or facts involved. You can be regarded the best fighter in the world and not even be a legit champion.
And having a bad decision go against you doesn't mean you get a free pass from ever leaving home again. Millions of fighters have been "robbed."
Fenster,
Moving up to heavyweight was still a great achievement regardless of the belt.
You already said you think roy was the better fighter and the mythical p4p best..why is there a need to make out roy ducked or feared darius?..we know the big money is in the states.
How is this relevant to marquez saying that floyd would beat pac.
Roy beating Ruiz was a good achivement I wouldn't call it great.
I never even came close to saying Roy ducked Darius. I was pointing out who the correct champion was, therefore to simply dismiss the lesser known guy based in Germany as the villain for not travelling is bogus. That's all.
Roy had about 8 titles when Dariusz had the lineal title and the WBO strap
8>2
Virgil Hill never beat Spinks for the lineal title, hence the chain of succession was broken and restarted with Hill winning that title in an elimination bout. Dariusz beat Hill for the linear title by decision. Roy then beat Hill in a more convincing, spectacular fashion via KO.
Roy Jones Jr. was the man at LHW.
Roy had belts that Michalczewski had already won and discarded or been stripped of through politics. He didn't lose them in the ring.
When a lineage is broken it only gets restarted when the universally recognised no.1 and 2 meet.
Hill (WBA champ) and Maske (IBF) unified to establish THE man at 175 (they were recognised as the top two in the division). The WBC champion was Fabrice Tiozzo who Hill had already beat. Roy hadn't even fought in the division at this point.
Hill beat Maske to become THE man. He then lost to Michalczewski who was stripped/chucked the WBA and IBF titles. The titles were now utterly irrelevant because a CLEAR champion was established.
A hundred alaphbet titles don't mean shit compared with lineage. It's the only pure way of having a true champion, regardless of whether or not people think he's the best in the division.
Last edited by Fenster; 12-06-2012 at 12:20 AM.
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
Bookmarks