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    Default Re: Marquez vs pacman 5..why?

    Why not ?

    Every time these guys face off we get a quality fight and every fight has had a different result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Why not ?

    Every time these guys face off we get a quality fight and every fight has had a different result.
    I think 4 fights, is enough for any one this time you could not argue who the winner was, you could
    see both fighters did not want, it left to the judges sweet right hand on the button.!

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    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.

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    Default Re: Marquez vs pacman 5..why?

    no point for 5 JMM already proved he is the better Man period.
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    Its all up to JMM. He could easily retire on a high and very loud note now. If he agrees to a 5th he would only give Pac a chance at revenge and then sending this saga into an even longer run.

    I think at this point, its easy to close the book with that chapter because after all that violence only the brave would want to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.
    I disagree.

    Pac can make a load of money still fighting and he can prove he can bounce back.

    Did old marquez retire after the last bout? No. He sucked it up and carried on like a warrior.

    Pac showed he was still his usual dangerous self last night and he had me worried after he knocked down marquez...but marquez threw the picture perfect sugar ray robinson counter punch that was a beautiful thing to behold.

    Pacs power is still there so is his speed.
    He needs to beat bradley and another solid welterweight to get a shot at marquez again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.
    I disagree.

    Pac can make a load of money still fighting and he can prove he can bounce back.

    Did old marquez retire after the last bout? No. He sucked it up and carried on like a warrior.

    Pac showed he was still his usual dangerous self last night and he had me worried after he knocked down marquez...but marquez threw the picture perfect sugar ray robinson counter punch that was a beautiful thing to behold.

    Pacs power is still there so is his speed.
    He needs to beat bradley and another solid welterweight to get a shot at marquez again.
    I don't think he needs to beat anybody. People will pay to see an immediate rematch. It'll do over a million PPV buys again and it'll sell out any stadium they put it in. Arum could turn it into a massive event by putting it in Cowboys Stadium. It might even make more money than the fight last night.

    I'm sure Manny wants it and I don't think JMM will turn it down if he gets a bigger chunk of the split.

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    I thought that fight number 4 was already excessive as did many others here. But I think last night was a suitable end to this story. Marquez has done enough and should leave on a high. No need to make these two fight over and over again.

    Pacquiao need not retire just yet. Hes a bit younger and still has enough skill for some good fights against OTHER opponents. A fight with Mayweather is better at this point, even though less intriging, then an unnecessary repeat with Marquez.

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    No need. If anything Marquez has more than earned the repsect to close this book and put it on his shelf of legacy. He has arguably gotten better with each fight and capped it off with an ending that usually comes in the beginning of a long fight series and then results in a second, third...but not a 5th. This was a progression. In its own way somewhat of an accumulation spread over bouts. Outboxed boxed him last time...knocked him cold this time.

    I have the utmost respect for Manny. The name it self polarizes people as well as transcends the sport. But he needs to sit down and think...decide if he is the fierce force and can bring back the manic-Manny that he once was and walks foes down. Honestly, if anything after the last three fights..he needs to earn it back! Start with Bradley. Screw money and what he'll 'draw'. Fans need to stop playing fighter accountants. Pac needs to do it for him and only him. Put that beating on that you should have in the first place. Delete it and reset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.
    I disagree.

    Pac can make a load of money still fighting and he can prove he can bounce back.

    Did old marquez retire after the last bout? No. He sucked it up and carried on like a warrior.

    Pac showed he was still his usual dangerous self last night and he had me worried after he knocked down marquez...but marquez threw the picture perfect sugar ray robinson counter punch that was a beautiful thing to behold.

    Pacs power is still there so is his speed.
    He needs to beat bradley and another solid welterweight to get a shot at marquez again.
    you are a sadist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.
    I disagree.

    Pac can make a load of money still fighting and he can prove he can bounce back.

    Did old marquez retire after the last bout? No. He sucked it up and carried on like a warrior.

    Pac showed he was still his usual dangerous self last night and he had me worried after he knocked down marquez...but marquez threw the picture perfect sugar ray robinson counter punch that was a beautiful thing to behold.

    Pacs power is still there so is his speed.
    He needs to beat bradley and another solid welterweight to get a shot at marquez again.
    you are a sadist
    Your just sad pavlik.
    Grow up.

    Theres no need to use those terms.
    I saw positives in the fight for pac and rather than ridicule its always best to support.

    As a mayweather fan of course part of me was glad that JMM won because i never thought pac was on floyds level anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.
    I disagree.

    Pac can make a load of money still fighting and he can prove he can bounce back.

    Did old marquez retire after the last bout? No. He sucked it up and carried on like a warrior.

    Marquez wasn't brutally stopped. I'm not sure he can come back from that.

    Pac showed he was still his usual dangerous self last night and he had me worried after he knocked down marquez...but marquez threw the picture perfect sugar ray robinson counter punch that was a beautiful thing to behold.

    Pacs power is still there so is his speed.

    Explain how his power is still there. He hasn't had a knockout in years. I agree his speed is still there.

    He needs to beat bradley and another solid welterweight to get a shot at marquez again.

    Why does he need to prove anything?
    He lost his last two fights. He's secured his legacy already. He's made a ton of money in the game. However, most significantly, he suffered a monstrous knockout last night. That was a Sergio Martinez-Paul Williams type of knockout. I'm not sure he can come back from that, even if he wanted to. Time will tell though.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 12-09-2012 at 09:20 PM.

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    Default Re: Marquez vs pacman 5..why?

    Don't forget, in the last 3 fights Manny Pacquiao was the man. After the weekend, JMM is now THE MAN...

    So, I'm sure Marquez can think of about 20-odd million reasons for Pac vs JMM 5
    It was a fitting finale, especially in the eyes of the fans but we're just watching at home so it's easier for us to say "let's close the book now". I wouldn't begrudge Marquez if he chose to make that 8 figure payday.

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    Pac Man should avenge his defeats against Bradley then JMM in 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't see any reason for why there can't be a fifth fight. It's been a terrific series. Every single fight has been great. However, that's if Manny continues to fight. In my opinion, Manny should retire. It appears that he is done as an elite fighter. He's made his money and fought great fights.
    Nice slight of JMM accomplishment. If he is done it is because JMM has done him in. Pac was winning the fight convincingly until JMM caught him flush. Manny showed up in elite form for the fight! No more excuses from Pac followers please .....

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