I blame Jinkee Pacquiao for this fiasco!

[christianshreve]

Perhaps. And being distracted by them is another hallmark of our genre. Maybe it didn't have an influence on any of your matches. My record isn't as good in that department.
I'm not saying it is professional--allowing distractions.

[IamInuit]

I don't have a record. I won the golden gloves in the mid 70's in my Province and never pursued boxing.Born a wrestler.

That is irrelevant. You cant cop out in a fight at this level over lifestyle. Shit or get off the pot.

[Gandalf]

What a stupid argument. The idea that you stop womanizing and you get knocked out. The idea that you stop gambling and thus get knocked out. The idea that you renew vows to your wife and consequently get knocked out. I mean, where on earth does a logic like that come from? Manny was winning the fight until he got too reckless. He built into the notion that he had to be more aggresive and leave no doubts and that is what knocked him out.

By all accounts he had a very good camp and was in a good place. Blaming his wife? Who on earth are you to blame his wife? Manny was to blame. End. Of. Discussion.

[generalbulldog]

What a stupid argument. The idea that you stop womanizing and you get knocked out. The idea that you stop gambling and thus get knocked out. The idea that you renew vows to your wife and consequently get knocked out. I mean, where on earth does a logic like that come from? Manny was winning the fight until he got too reckless. He built into the notion that he had to be more aggresive and leave no doubts and that is what knocked him out.

By all accounts he had a very good camp and was in a good place. Blaming his wife? Who on earth are you to blame his wife? Manny was to blame. End. Of. Discussion.

Yes it is a pathetic excuse. And JMM won fair and square. But don't forget plenty of fans of other boxers, like for example Hatton fans also used the many excuses of " moving up in welterweight (floyd fight), weight drain (pac fight), Joe Cortez (Floyd fight), partying lifestyle (both fights), Floyd Mayweather Sr. didn't properly train Hatton (pac fight)" and a myriad of other excuses on why Hatton lost to Floyd and Manny. Sounds familiar?

So what does this mean? Fanboys of fighters will always use excuses.

[Gandalf]

What a stupid argument. The idea that you stop womanizing and you get knocked out. The idea that you stop gambling and thus get knocked out. The idea that you renew vows to your wife and consequently get knocked out. I mean, where on earth does a logic like that come from? Manny was winning the fight until he got too reckless. He built into the notion that he had to be more aggresive and leave no doubts and that is what knocked him out.

By all accounts he had a very good camp and was in a good place. Blaming his wife? Who on earth are you to blame his wife? Manny was to blame. End. Of. Discussion.

Yes it is a pathetic excuse. And JMM won fair and square. But don't forget plenty of fans of other boxers, like for example Hatton fans also used the many excuses of " moving up in welterweight (floyd fight), weight drain (pac fight), Joe Cortez (Floyd fight), partying lifestyle (both fights), Floyd Mayweather Sr. didn't properly train Hatton (pac fight)" and a myriad of other excuses on why Hatton lost to Floyd and Manny. Sounds familiar?

So what does this mean? Fanboys of fighters will always use excuses.

I say yes and no to the points regarding the Hatton/Floyd fight. Cortez was a very obvious factor and took away a bogus point and Hatton was moving up in weight to fight Mayweather at a weight he had looked dubious at. Those are observable facts. Regarding all the other arguments though and even the last point concerning weight, Hatton has only himself to blame. We cannot blame his girlfriend for any of it.

Mind you, they are all far better reasons than to blame it on Jinkee Pac. If something goes wrong and you are the cause then you are responsible. Nobody told Hatton to fight Pacquiao like a plonker and likewise, nobody told Manny to leave himself completely open either.

A fighter at that level needs to take self responsibility for eventually takes place in that ring. Pac made no excuses and I respect him for that.

[TysonBomb]

Yeah, because it clearly cant be that you win some and lose some and at the end of the day everybody is human

Obviously that would be ludicrous reasoning

[Beanz]

What a stupid argument. The idea that you stop womanizing and you get knocked out. The idea that you stop gambling and thus get knocked out. The idea that you renew vows to your wife and consequently get knocked out. I mean, where on earth does a logic like that come from? Manny was winning the fight until he got too reckless. He built into the notion that he had to be more aggresive and leave no doubts and that is what knocked him out.

By all accounts he had a very good camp and was in a good place. Blaming his wife? Who on earth are you to blame his wife? Manny was to blame. End. Of. Discussion.

Yes it is a pathetic excuse. And JMM won fair and square. But don't forget plenty of fans of other boxers, like for example Hatton fans also used the many excuses of " moving up in welterweight (floyd fight), weight drain (pac fight), Joe Cortez (Floyd fight), partying lifestyle (both fights), Floyd Mayweather Sr. didn't properly train Hatton (pac fight)" and a myriad of other excuses on why Hatton lost to Floyd and Manny. Sounds familiar?

So what does this mean? Fanboys of fighters will always use excuses.

What a dick. Hatton has nothing to do with it. The exact lifestyle supposedly abandoned by Manny and responsible for his loss was how Ricky lived between fights when he lost. It's boxing, people get knocked out, particularly come forward aggressive fighters who have inflicted the same fate on others. You live by the sword you die by the sword. As soon as you start using your same old fanboys rant you just sound as bitter as those you seek to mock. Sound familiar? Give it a rest.

[Nameless]

I blame Marquez gloves. I mean, it was hiding his fists and therefore Pacquiao couldn't see them coming.

[jon09]

I blame the A Side Meth.

[IamInuit]

After further investigation David Haye is off the hook. I now blame this man.