Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.

[Fenster]

Naz would have bombed out Marquez too. AS great as Marquez is, he's been down around 10 million times during his career

You go down against Naz..... it's over.

[TitoFan]

Marquez has proven to be right up there with the great MAB.
Only thing different about a JMM-Naz fight is JMM would've introduced Naz to the other corner post.

[Fenster]

I think Marquez has surpassed the great Barrera.

However, any boxing expert, especially one versed in the technical artistry of the sport, can only envisage one winner with prime Naz countering his bombs against those exposed bonces.

Marquez would have lasted longer than Pac, but ultimately it's impossible to see either of these serial canvas victims getting past 3. Against old Naz Marquez might have gone the distance. Pac would have still gone in 3. It's just basic undeniable logic.

[TitoFan]

Au contraire, mod. Naz's undisciplined style and awkwardly thrown shots would've been tailor-made for the counterpunching Marquez. The seasoned pro (JMM) would be drooling all over himself waiting for Naz to hang himself out to dry... only to potshot the shit out of him. Not one to be impressed by the gangly, hands-down approach of Naz... Marquez, (in his own right a very patient fighter)... would eventually tag Naz and put him down. The fact that Marquez has tasted canvas before is of little or no consequence. Pac put him down 3 times in the first round of their first fight. Marquez survived the round, and went on to dominate the last half of the fight, earning him a draw.

Only question in my mind is whether it would be a neutral corner post, JMM's corner post, or Naz's own corner post..... or whether JMM would go for the trifecta.

[AdamGB]

I have to conclude from the sound logic in this thread that Hamed would have ruined MAB too.

p4p all time no. 1

[Fenster]

Look, I'm just basing this factual reasoning on pure statistcal verified data.

Naz had a 100% knockdown to knockout conversation rate at featherweight. That is a fact. Marquez hit the canvas numerous times at featherweight, let alone other weights. Therefore the stats indicate Naz, who was P4P one of the hardest punchers ever, KO's Marquez.

Marquez is a greater fighter than Naz in the grand scheme of things. But even if Naz knocked him spark out, which is highly likely, it wouldn't have altered Marquez high postion in boxing. Fact.

[Violent Demise]

Look, I'm just basing this factual reasoning on pure statistcal verified data.

Naz had a 100% knockdown to knockout conversation rate at featherweight. That is a fact. Marquez hit the canvas numerous times at featherweight, let alone other weights. Therefore the stats indicate Naz, who was P4P one of the hardest punchers ever, KO's Marquez.

Marquez is a greater fighter than Naz in the grand scheme of things. But even if Naz knocked him spark out, which is highly likely, it wouldn't have altered Marquez high postion in boxing. Fact.

Cesar Soto went the full 12 with Hamed. The same Cesar Soto who was stopped in 1 round by Adrian Valdez. Sounds to me like you trying to say Hamed isn't the fighter Valdez was. Interesting.

[TitoFan]

Look, I'm just basing this factual reasoning on pure statistcal verified data.

Naz had a 100% knockdown to knockout conversation rate at featherweight. That is a fact. Marquez hit the canvas numerous times at featherweight, let alone other weights. Therefore the stats indicate Naz, who was P4P one of the hardest punchers ever, KO's Marquez.

Marquez is a greater fighter than Naz in the grand scheme of things. But even if Naz knocked him spark out, which is highly likely, it wouldn't have altered Marquez high postion in boxing. Fact.

You're playing silly numbers games. Naz knocked out everyone he ever knocked down....... Marquez has hit the canvas before. So you add A plus B, and you get C. Then you throw Marquez a backhanded compliment saying he would "highly likely" get knocked out by Naz... but he'd still be great. Cute.

Has anyone bought that, that you know of?

[iwng100]

I think Marquez has surpassed the great Barrera.

However, any boxing expert, especially one versed in the technical artistry of the sport, can only envisage one winner with prime Naz countering his bombs against those exposed bonces.

Marquez would have lasted longer than Pac, but ultimately it's impossible to see either of these serial canvas victims getting past 3. Against old Naz Marquez might have gone the distance. Pac would have still gone in 3. It's just basic undeniable logic.

That depends which version of Pac would have fought, before or after changing his religion.
The fact is all three lose against the great Mighty Mike. Fact