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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
    I think he's clean. Like it was said, i think that punch drops everybody in the division. I thought he was all for random testing but Arum said no? I don't think it's out of the questions for a guy to train 4 months with a personal trainer and put on some muscle. I guess we will find out on the 17th.
    Actually Marquez has been training under Herrerdia's program for over a year, so it is definitely not out of the question for a guy to get size and definition in that period especially if he really had not weight trained regularly previously.

    So its a toss up really, lets just hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onix View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
    I think he's clean. Like it was said, i think that punch drops everybody in the division. I thought he was all for random testing but Arum said no? I don't think it's out of the questions for a guy to train 4 months with a personal trainer and put on some muscle. I guess we will find out on the 17th.
    Actually Marquez has been training under Herrerdia's program for over a year, so it is definitely not out of the question for a guy to get size and definition in that period especially if he really had not weight trained regularly previously.

    So its a toss up really, lets just hope.
    Have no idea, and I'm not going to worry about it or let it ruin that beautiful right hand Marquez threw, until I have no other choice.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    I doubt more than 5% of all professional fighters are clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I doubt more than 5% of all professional fighters are clean.
    I sort of agree :S why wouldn't they cheat if you follow any other sports and investigate drug cheats there it's not that hard to get around even this famous olympic testing... i.e marion jones, lance armstrong..... with such big money at stake and such a small risk of being caught why not dope :S.. I am a big cycling fan and even with the very strict testing there so many people get away with it and are onyl caught when the police invesitgate doctors who supply the stuff and so on...

    I would guess marquez is on some form of drug cheating just because of who he is working with just now... but whatever I dont really care and I doubt he has no bigger an advantage than the other big name fighters have

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    Lets just call everyone cheaters and call it an even playing field.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    No man that drinks his own urine can ever be considered clean.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    Wouldnt surprise me if he was roided cu so much more powerful than he was vs Fedchecnko afew months earlier and that doesnt happen naturally at 40 but team Pac should have stipulated random testing if they had concerns.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    innocent until proven dopey

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    Nope. He drinks his own piss like a tramp. Tramps are dirty.
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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I doubt more than 5% of all professional fighters are clean.
    i actually think 5% of all fighters might be a bit low

    im sure there are many a journey man and low level fighter who are clean

    once you get to a certain level tho I agree with you
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    ive been to mexico and you can buy steriods in most chemists

    they are advertised on the windows

    im not sure if there are any additional rules once you get in the chemist and ask for them mind
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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

    This guy is probably the top boxing journalist. He wrote Ali's biography and he just wrote these two articles on PEDs. PEDs are going to become the biggest issue in boxing at some point so it's good to know what the situation is :

    Max Boxing - News - The PED Mess: Part One

    Max Boxing - News - The PED Mess: Part Two

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