Juan Manuel Marquez, clean or not?

[beenKOed]

I think he's clean. Like it was said, i think that punch drops everybody in the division. I thought he was all for random testing but Arum said no? I don't think it's out of the questions for a guy to train 4 months with a personal trainer and put on some muscle. I guess we will find out on the 17th.

Actually Marquez has been training under Herrerdia's program for over a year, so it is definitely not out of the question for a guy to get size and definition in that period especially if he really had not weight trained regularly previously.

So its a toss up really, lets just hope.

Have no idea, and I'm not going to worry about it or let it ruin that beautiful right hand Marquez threw, until I have no other choice.

[CFH]

I doubt more than 5% of all professional fighters are clean.

[palmerq]

I doubt more than 5% of all professional fighters are clean.

I sort of agree :S why wouldn't they cheat if you follow any other sports and investigate drug cheats there it's not that hard to get around even this famous olympic testing... i.e marion jones, lance armstrong..... with such big money at stake and such a small risk of being caught why not dope :S.. I am a big cycling fan and even with the very strict testing there so many people get away with it and are onyl caught when the police invesitgate doctors who supply the stuff and so on...

I would guess marquez is on some form of drug cheating just because of who he is working with just now... but whatever I dont really care and I doubt he has no bigger an advantage than the other big name fighters have

[IamInuit]

Lets just call everyone cheaters and call it an even playing field.

[Gandalf]

No man that drinks his own urine can ever be considered clean.

[GAME]

Wouldnt surprise me if he was roided cu so much more powerful than he was vs Fedchecnko afew months earlier and that doesnt happen naturally at 40 but team Pac should have stipulated random testing if they had concerns.

[armin]

Could it be that pacs chin is just slowly giving in Not like he's been a defensive genius in his career, hell its also not like marquez never hurt him before. Plus it was a perfect punch with many already going forward so that only enhanced the impact.

[RussellScott]

innocent until proven dopey

[Beanflicker]

The fact is that it's just not realistic for a 40 year old man to make that kind of physical improvement.

Your natural testosterone level starts dropping when you hit your 30s. And that's for your average Joe.

Boxers have it worse, because it's found that with all the punches they take to the head, their pineal gland is damaged and their testosterone levels end up being similar to a much older man's.

Do I think a 40 year old man who has taken over 20 years of blows to the head can put on that much muscle naturally, all the while undergoing an incredibly taxing cardiovascular training camp? No, I don't believe that for a second.

[ono]

Nope. He drinks his own piss like a tramp. Tramps are dirty.

[ryanman]

Nope. He drinks his own piss like a tramp. Tramps are dirty.

........It's Ono ladies and gentlemen

He's here all week folks.

[erics44]

I doubt more than 5% of all professional fighters are clean.

i actually think 5% of all fighters might be a bit low

im sure there are many a journey man and low level fighter who are clean

once you get to a certain level tho I agree with you

[erics44]

ive been to mexico and you can buy steriods in most chemists

they are advertised on the windows

im not sure if there are any additional rules once you get in the chemist and ask for them mind

[Kirkland Laing]

This guy is probably the top boxing journalist. He wrote Ali's biography and he just wrote these two articles on PEDs. PEDs are going to become the biggest issue in boxing at some point so it's good to know what the situation is :

Max Boxing - News - The PED Mess: Part One

Max Boxing - News - The PED Mess: Part Two