How good was Edwin Valero?

[DavilaJones]

If I may add one thing and that is regardng the murder/suicide. What you must take into account is his brain damage, this was equally true of Chris Benoit if his name doesn't ring a bell, he was a great wrestler. Their brains were so damaged that after death when they were scanned under MRI it showed that they had as much brain deterioration as a 70 year old Alzheimer patient.

I'm trying to word this as best as I can but essentially the brain damage was responsible for the massive mood swings, the aggression, and depression. After all your brain governs all your actions and if it is severely damaged then the results can be quite tragic. I think the real culprit are the people that allowed him to fight when his [Valero] brain health was in doubt.

That aside, I think he had an underrated defense as he didn't really get hit that much.

[beenKOed]

If I may add one thing and that is regardng the murder/suicide. What you must take into account is his brain damage, this was equally true of Chris Benoit if his name doesn't ring a bell, he was a great wrestler. Their brains were so damaged that after death when they were scanned under MRI it showed that they had as much brain deterioration as a 70 year old Alzheimer patient.

I'm trying to word this as best as I can but essentially the brain damage was responsible for the massive mood swings, the aggression, and depression. After all your brain governs all your actions and if it is severely damaged then the results can be quite tragic. I think the real culprit are the people that allowed him to fight when his [Valero] brain health was in doubt.

That aside, I think he had an underrated defense as he didn't really get hit that much.

I'm willing to forgive anything but murder. Almost anything!

[Vendettos]

If I may add one thing and that is regardng the murder/suicide. What you must take into account is his brain damage, this was equally true of Chris Benoit if his name doesn't ring a bell, he was a great wrestler. Their brains were so damaged that after death when they were scanned under MRI it showed that they had as much brain deterioration as a 70 year old Alzheimer patient.

I'm trying to word this as best as I can but essentially the brain damage was responsible for the massive mood swings, the aggression, and depression. After all your brain governs all your actions and if it is severely damaged then the results can be quite tragic. I think the real culprit are the people that allowed him to fight when his [Valero] brain health was in doubt.

That aside, I think he had an underrated defense as he didn't really get hit that much.

Not to disagree with you, but my understanding is that he had many Mri's before Texas allowed him to fight, surely they'd have noticed substantial damage?

[Master]

He was dead good.

[DavilaJones]

Texas isn't exactly known for its elite health regulations in boxing. That being said the De'marco fight wasn't allowed in the US precisely because the MRI tests showed that he wasn't fit to fight.

Also you have to understand that he really did lose his mental faculty. He wasn't bored one day and decided to kill his wife and child then off himself. His brain was do damaged, his depression so extreme that he really should have been committed to a facility rather been allowed to roam because he was a danger to himself and others.

[Althugz]

I was also one of the ones that heard so much of Valero but put him on the backburner literally until last week. That's when I saw the DeMarco fight and he just beat the guy up..no special effects but pretty brutal. Shame we didn't get to see him in there with the elite to see how he would have fared. I imagine a skilled elite "boxer" would have left him hitting air but he's one of those fighters like Froch. You keep thinking he's crude, unskilled and one fight away from losing but then you give up betting against him because he keeps winning and winning impressively.

I didn't even know about all the shit with his wife until watching the Demarco fight when the camera panned to his wife at the end of the fight and thinking "Shit! She's gorgeous!!" and googled her...only to find images of her laying in a pool of her own blood with a stab wound in her neck

Guy must have had some demons and that's putting it mildly.

[mattboxingfan]

He had crazy power. One of the biggest punchers I've ever seen in boxing. He was an offensive guy with very little if any defense but that didn't really matter because of his insane power and ability to get those fast KO's he didn't need a defense.

Down the line of course he would have had to developed a defense as he fought better opposition. I believe he had the potential to be the next Pacquiao if not better because of his power. I would have loved to see that fight made. He could have been something special.