Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.

[AdamGB]

That's because one fighter has a history of fighting the GREAT fighters of his era and the other, to put it mildly... doesn't.

Call me crazy, but when it comes to opposing stories, I am more likely to side with the guy who didn't retire after having fought and widely lost to the single truly elite that he ever faced.

If Hamed left a better legacy then I might be more open to your cries of avoidance.

[TitoFan]

Ouch! That had to hurt.
Once again.......

[Fenster]

Marquez being superior to Naz is irrelevant. That's a given.

All you have to do is - explain how a fighter has "ducked" someone that refused to fight them? That's it.

@TitoFan - your immature responses are not hiding your lack of knowledge. Either answer the question or accept you were wrong. There's no shame in being wrong. Fact.

[TitoFan]

CutMeMick and AdamGB have both refuted your silly theory that the inferior Naz was somehow ducked by the much greater JMM. I've yet to see your answers to them. Why is that, Fen?

[Fenster]

CutMeMick and AdamGB have both refuted your silly theory that the inferior Naz was somehow ducked by the much greater JMM. I've yet to see your answers to them. Why is that, Fen?

Where have they? Copy and paste their arguments that prove Marquez DID NOT refuse a fight with Naz?

Then show me what my "silly theory" is?

[TitoFan]

There's numerous interviews and articles by credible people stating unequivocally that Hamed ducked Marquez for months, when Marquez was the mandatory challenger. And we have your shaky, unsubstantiated "evidence" that Marquez somehow ducked Hamed.... a theory ridiculed by most here on the forum. All because it suits your dubious agenda of pushing the "greatness" of Hamed, a talented fighter who inexplicably decided to retire after getting humiliated by the only elite fighter he ever faced.

The burden of proof is on you, mod.

[TitoFan]

But I enjoy these periodic arguments over the same tired old theory.
It puts a bit of a smile on my face.

[Fenster]

There's numerous interviews and articles by credible people stating unequivocally that Hamed ducked Marquez for months, when Marquez was the mandatory challenger. And we have your shaky, unsubstantiated "evidence" that Marquez somehow ducked Hamed.... a theory ridiculed by most here on the forum. All because it suits your dubious agenda of pushing the "greatness" of Hamed, a talented fighter who inexplicably decided to retire after getting humiliated by the only elite fighter he ever faced.

The burden of proof is on you, mod.

"Shaky and unsubstantiated evidence?"

I'm the one that can unequivocally prove Marquez turned down the fight. You want proof?

Exhibit 1 - Marquez admits he turned down Hamed - LAS VEGAS RJ:SPORTS: Featherweight Marquez said no to H...

Exhibit 2 - Nacho Beristain (trainer/manager) admits he turned down Hamed - LAS VEGAS RJ:SPORTS: Featherweight Marquez said no to H...

Exhibit 3 - Antonio Curtis, Marquez former matchmaker, admits they turned down Hamed. "What happened is this, they called us when we had already signed for another fight and then they wanted us to fight Hamed, Curtis recalled, of those events. Now, I wanted to pull that fight, to fight Hamed. But Nacho said no. He would've gotten a half-million for the fight and Nacho turned that fight down." Max Boxing - Steve Kim

Exhibit 4 - HBO confirm Marquez turned down Hamed -

1. Explain how my evidence is unsubstantiated? 2. Explain what my "silly theory" is? 3. Explain how you're scared of someone you offer a fight?

All you have is - Marquez was Hamed's mandatory. Have I ever disputed that obvious fact? No. There are dozens and dozens of mandatory challengers that never get the champion.