Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.

[TitoFan]

As much as I'd like to stay and debate this longer today... I'm afraid I have other engagements. But let me just comment on your points. I'll gladly come back later or tomorrow and continue debating.

1. Steward encouraged Hamed to "duck" Marquez but also encouraged him to fight him. He was his trainer when the fight was offered, so obviously wasn't as scared of Marquez as that 5 second clip led you to believe.

Ok you lost me here. Steward encouraged Hamed to duck Marquez but also encouraged him to fight him Ok whatever. Unfortunately, a "5-second clip" is all I have to go by. If you have a clip of Steward encouraging Hamed to fight Marquez, please share it. Although it still won't prove Hamed wasn't scared of Marquez.

Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant both agreed in the video I provided that - "Marquez turning down Naz makes it look like he's scared of getting beat up." Are they "authority" enough?

For someone with an infatuation with the word "fact", you sure have some ill-conceived conception of what facts are. It's only a fact that Lampley and Merchant said it LOOKS like Marquez is scared by turning down Naz. Does that translate into a fact that Marquez was in fact scared of Naz? I hope you say "No" to that. It's a video of the interpretation of what two sportscasters thinks it looks like that Marquez turned down Naz under circumstances they are not privy to.

Hamed had two years to fight Marquez..... TWO YEARS. And Marquez is supposed to drop everything and take a fight without proper preparation because Hamed's people suddenly grow a pair of balls (or get tired of being accused of ducking Marquez) and throw Marquez an offer when Marquez was already set to fight someone else?

C'mon. The fight game is all about posturing and one-upping the other. That's why Pac and Floyd have never fought and probably never will. Maybe it's not even due to "ducking" as we all like to say. Maybe it's just the damn posturing and one-upping between the fighters camps. "No... it's not when you say... it's when I say." That kind of shit.

@TitoFan - You can cross words out too, It's nothing to do with being a mod, it's a simple posting option.

My option must be defective..... I used to be able to do it, but haven't been able to for a long time. You wouldn't mind a helpful hint to a fellow saddo'er, would you?