Addressing the PED problem

[IamInuit]

Yep. I just find it inexcusable to be putting up "dollars and cents" barriers and excuses, when PEDs in boxing could easily lead to tragedies in the ring. Suffice it to say the sport has its inherent dangers already. We don't need to add more. And when you see the vast amounts of money flowing in big fights, excuses make even less sense. Just last night I caught part of "The Fight Game", with Jim Lampley... and he closed with a statement regarding the increasing use of PEDs. It's a real issue, and as humorously posted with a picture a few posts back.... it won't go away even if we bury our heads in the sand.

I think your boy Tito punching guys with his "cinder-block" hand wraps was more dangerous than any PED you could take.

See I only have to quote this ^^^^^^ because what follows matters not. One of the biggest urban legends of all time as a premise FFS. Inferring that Tito is some Resto or Margarito. Tito's wraps were signed off 39 times prior to Hopkins and it was a complaint about wrap direction not cement inserts u idiot.

[IamInuit]

Oh and if all else fails change the subject.

[Beanflicker]

Oh and if all else fails change the subject.

Why don't you address some of the FACTS I brought up?

And why don't you provide a source for that 20 million estimate that it would cost to drug test 1000 fucking boxers 12 times a year.

Get informed before you start spouting off on a subject as complex as this.

I doubt you guys would be able to name 3 different types of steroids without a Google search, and here you are with the solution to end the problem.

[TitoFan]

Oh and if all else fails change the subject.

Why don't you address some of the FACTS I brought up?

And why don't you provide a source for that 20 million estimate that it would cost to drug test 1000 fucking boxers 12 times a year.

Facts? You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and slapped your pimply face. WTF does your hard-on for Trinidad's wraps have to do with PEDs? That took whatever credibility you were hoping to have right out the window. After that you just become a sad little fool.

PED testing is expensive, twerp. But having brain-damaged fighters, not to mention the continuing damage to the sport by the PED issue.... is more expensive in the long run. Repeating something I said earlier.... cost should not be an excuse to try and clean up the sport. There's plenty of money in boxing, and some of it can be used for research and/or testing. To do nothing but sit there with your thumbs up your ass.... bellyaching about so-and-so testing positive for PEDs.... is pathetic. Better some action than no action at all.

[Beanflicker]

Facts? You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and slapped your pimply face. WTF does your hard-on for Trinidad's wraps have to do with PEDs? That took whatever credibility you were hoping to have right out the window. After that you just become a sad little fool.

PED testing is expensive, twerp. But having brain-damaged fighters, not to mention the continuing damage to the sport by the PED issue.... is more expensive in the long run. Repeating something I said earlier.... cost should not be an excuse to try and clean up the sport. There's plenty of money in boxing, and some of it can be used for research and/or testing. To do nothing but sit there with your thumbs up your ass.... bellyaching about so-and-so testing positive for PEDs.... is pathetic. Better some action than no action at all.

My credibility? You'd think defending Tito, a guy who GOT FUCKING CAUGHT WITH ILLEGAL HANDWRAPS, would damage YOUR credibilty. But that would require you to have some kind of footing in logic and reason, which you've made clear that you don't.

You've come up with a solution that makes absolutely no sense. You have absolutely no facts or logic on your side. Your knowledge of PED's is close to nothing. Pipe down and let people who took the time to educate themselves handle the problem.

[TitoFan]

Facts? You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and slapped your pimply face. WTF does your hard-on for Trinidad's wraps have to do with PEDs? That took whatever credibility you were hoping to have right out the window. After that you just become a sad little fool.

PED testing is expensive, twerp. But having brain-damaged fighters, not to mention the continuing damage to the sport by the PED issue.... is more expensive in the long run. Repeating something I said earlier.... cost should not be an excuse to try and clean up the sport. There's plenty of money in boxing, and some of it can be used for research and/or testing. To do nothing but sit there with your thumbs up your ass.... bellyaching about so-and-so testing positive for PEDs.... is pathetic. Better some action than no action at all.

My credibility? You'd think defending Tito, a guy who GOT FUCKING CAUGHT WITH ILLEGAL HANDWRAPS, would damage YOUR credibilty. But that would require you to have some kind of footing in logic and reason, which you've made clear that you don't.

You've come up with a solution that makes absolutely no sense. You have absolutely no facts or logic on your side. Your knowledge of PED's is close to nothing. Pipe down and let people who took the time to educate themselves handle the problem.

You have no clue as to what illegal handwraps are. You're just a hater... and it oozes out of your pores. You're also an ostrich with your head stuck up your ass. A "negative Nancy" who says nothing can be done to solve what everyone else agrees is a problem. If you're that way in real life... you must be one sorry, pathetic individual.

[Beanflicker]

You have no clue as to what illegal handwraps are. You're just a hater... and it oozes out of your pores. You're also an ostrich with your head stuck up your ass. A "negative Nancy" who says nothing can be done to solve what everyone else agrees is a problem. If you're that way in real life... you must be one sorry, pathetic individual.

Again, absolutely no substance or facts.

I would love to solve the PED problem. That's not my issue. My issue is your "solution" is retarded and doesn't work. Calling me an ostrich or a "Negative Nancy" (LOL) doesn't change that fact. This is why people like you don't get to change things and have a say: because you're stupid.

PS. Bouie Fisher sure as hell knew what illegal handwraps were, and your boy got caught... just before he caught BHOP's right hand and caught a nap.

[Beanflicker]

Should be mentioned too that there is no global governing body. Athletic commisions vary from state to state (for example, Texas would allow Edwin Valero and Margarito to get a license and fight when no other state would.)

So ok, let's say you get the big one (Nevada) to agree to impliment this new "Testing Tax" on the big guys like Top Rank, GBP, ect. What's to stop the promoter from saying "Ok, well instead of having Floyd vs Pac in Vegas where I'm going to lose a big percentage of my profits to this new tax, I'm going to hold it in New Jersey."

Let's say somehow you get the whole country to agree to it. What's to stop the promoter from holding his big fight in Mexico, England, or a big Canadian city like Toronto or Montreal? This is why the big companies set up overseas: to avoid taxes.

So instead of replying with a "DURRRHHH MONEY EXCUSE COP OUT COP OUT DURRRHH TAX THE RICH TAX THE RICH", why don't you tell me how we avoid this situation?

[TitoFan]

Yep. I just find it inexcusable to be putting up "dollars and cents" barriers and excuses, when PEDs in boxing could easily lead to tragedies in the ring. Suffice it to say the sport has its inherent dangers already. We don't need to add more. And when you see the vast amounts of money flowing in big fights, excuses make even less sense. Just last night I caught part of "The Fight Game", with Jim Lampley... and he closed with a statement regarding the increasing use of PEDs. It's a real issue, and as humorously posted with a picture a few posts back.... it won't go away even if we bury our heads in the sand.

I think your boy Tito punching guys with his "cinder-block" hand wraps was more dangerous than any PED you could take.

See I only have to quote this ^^^^^^ because what follows matters not. One of the biggest urban legends of all time as a premise FFS. Inferring that Tito is some Resto or Margarito. Tito's wraps were signed off 39 times prior to Hopkins and it was a complaint about wrap direction not cement inserts u idiot.

Don't confuse him with the facts.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity".

- Martin Luther King Jr.

[Beanflicker]

Don't confuse him with the facts.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity".

- Martin Luther King Jr.

Stupidity? I'm bringing up logical points and questions (which you've done a great job of bobbing and weaving by the way).

You're asking for HUGE quantities of money to be deducted from fighters and promoters to impliment a system that is just as flawed and cheatable as the one we currently have.

You've brought absolutely NOTHING of substance to the thread. "MAKE THE RICH PAY FOR IT DURHHHH I DONT CARE IF IT WORKS WELL OR NOT WHO CARES THE RICH HAVE MORE MONEY DURHHHHH MAKE THEM MAKE IT GO AWAY."

You're an ignorant child.