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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Why is there so much hate for ward?
    What has he done wrong?
    He doesnt even need to give froch or kessler a rematch but he will because its the best money fights out there.

    Ward would have beaten bute as well..prob not as easy as froch did but who cares! This is the man that has beaten froch and kessler already!

    Ward strength is very decieving and he is alot stronger and tougher than people think he is.

    Im a fan of froch but the smart move for him is to fight ward at the end of 2014...in the meantime he can fight bute, kessler and possibly dirrell.
    I don't hate ward I respect him as a champion, he put on a hell of a performance against Froch. But I just don't understand why he has a problem with the Froch-Kessler rematch especially when he is injured himself. I think whoever does win between Froch-Kessler does deserve a rematch against Ward considering there isn't that much at 175 and Ward doesn't want to move up anyway. So it completely makes sense for a rematch.

    Froch would do a lot better in a rematch against Ward especially if he can get Ward to come to the UK for the fight. But if the fight is in the states again I don't think Froch would have a chance really. I don't think the rematch should happen as late as 2014, Froch will be older by then and I think he wouldn't be as good as he is now if he leaves it that late.

    Froch needs to fight Kessler, then Bute and then hopefully by then Ward is ready again. I don't see the point in Froch fighting Dirrell again, Dirrell hasn't done anything for ages and it wouldn't prove much. Froch has domestic options like Degale and Groves which would be massive here in the UK, but I doubt Froch wants to bother with the younger fighters this late in his career, but who knows what will happen. Bute said that he might want one more fight before Froch as well, i hope he does have that fight.

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    http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-mikkel-kessler-well-look-andre-ward--60875

    Hearn said he wants Kessler in May or June and then Ward in November. I wonder what Bute will have to say about this?

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    Default Re: Why is Ward so against Froch-Kessler 2??

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-mikkel-kessler-well-look-andre-ward--60875

    Hearn said he wants Kessler in May or June and then Ward in November. I wonder what Bute will have to say about this?

    froch will be doing bute a favour if he fights these other guys first. bute needs to work on his defense before he takes on a challenge like froch again. he didn't show any improvement in his last fight and i think he knows the outcome of a fight with froch would be the same at this point. maybe in a year if bute really work improving his defense.

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    Default Re: Why is Ward so against Froch-Kessler 2??

    I do not think Ward is worried about Froch and Kessler taking the limelight from him. Ward is the best super middle without any doubt as he has comprehensively beaten both.

    Ward is just taking his time whilst Froch and Kessler beat each other up. Ward is skilled but not a hard puncher and therefore not the most exciting fighter. Ward methodically beats his opponents up. This injury will be a set back for him but he has time on his side the Pavlik fighter was just a keep busy and earn some money fight.
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    Bute should be happy with what hes given.

    I see ward getting better and better and froch is still improving at his age.

    Froch is the biggest threat to wards crown...the question is will ward risk fighting in frochs home town when he doesnt need to?..should be a neutral venue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Bute should be happy with what hes given.

    I see ward getting better and better and froch is still improving at his age.

    Froch is the biggest threat to wards crown...the question is will ward risk fighting in frochs home town when he doesnt need to?..should be a neutral venue.
    It would be a far greater achievement if Ward came to the UK and beat Froch again than if he had home advantage again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Bute should be happy with what hes given.

    I see ward getting better and better and froch is still improving at his age.

    Froch is the biggest threat to wards crown...the question is will ward risk fighting in frochs home town when he doesnt need to?..should be a neutral venue.
    It would be a far greater achievement if Ward came to the UK and beat Froch again than if he had home advantage again.
    True.

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    You both make good points.

    But surely eddie hearn must be thinking he can make more money by leaving ward until 2014.

    If froch beats kessler in may, and beats bute in october..that leaves the ward fight last which is the hardest.

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    Ward has already pulled out of the pavlik fight as he has to have surgery on his shoulder.

    Pavilik vs bute anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Ward has already pulled out of the pavlik fight as he has to have surgery on his shoulder.

    Pavilik vs bute anyone?
    Was supposed to happen last year wasnt it? Pavlik pulled out.

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    Default Re: Why is Ward so against Froch-Kessler 2??

    froch fought kessler in denmark, kessler is fighting froch in england

    froch fought ward in america, ?
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    Default Re: Why is Ward so against Froch-Kessler 2??

    Ward is far from stupid, he made Dawson come down in weight and he looked weight drained,
    advantage Ward.
    You have to say Ward is a good fighter, but excitement is a word you would not use, he wins
    that's why he will never generate large amounts of PPV.
    He wins but his style, is not to ever one's taste his fights can be awful to watch.!, with Froch v Kessler
    we no we are going to be entertained.

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    Default Re: Why is Ward so against Froch-Kessler 2??

    Froch and Kessler may be entertaining but neither can say they are the best. Ward can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Froch and Kessler may be entertaining but neither can say they are the best. Ward can.

    i agree

    it would be interesting to know how ward would have faired with the same travelling mentality as froch
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