Dream Middleweight Tournament!

[Mrhydro]

Tommy Hearns vs Jake LaMotta!
Hopkins vs Hagler both in their primes!
Martinez vs Monzon both in their primes!
Ray Leonard vs Ray Robinson Both slightly past there best!

Whats the outcome on this one

[Silkeyjoe]

When I saw this thread I thought ut was a dream tournament you'd like to see like the super 6. I'd love to see one of these for middleweights involving the Brittish and Irish fighters, to see who is the best of them.

Macklin, Lee, Barker, Murray, Saunders, Ryder, Eubank Jr and O'Sulivan. Last 4 prob not experienced enough but all good fighters. I'd say Lee takes it. Any opinions?

[Silkeyjoe]

Tommy Hearns vs Jake LaMotta!
Hopkins vs Hagler both in their primes!
Martinez vs Monzon both in their primes!
Ray Leonard vs Ray Robinson Both slightly past there best!

Whats the outcome on this one

To answer this I go Hearns, Hagler, Martinez and Robinson

[IamInuit]

You cannot have a dream middleweight tourney and not include Harry Greb and Charley Burley.

[Mrhydro]

This is just my dream tournament!

[DavilaJones]

I'd say RJJ with SRR, as Leonard was a tad bit too small to really compete in middleweight, heck as was SRR but he did fight there longer.

[Master]

Tommy Hearns Pts Jake LaMotta but with busted hands.
Hagler outpoints Hopkins
Monzon Ko 12 Martinez with brutal right hands
Ray Robinson was a more of a real middleweight than Ray Leonard was and would batter him like Terry Norris did but get the stoppage.


Macklin is the best of the British middleweights as was Herol Graham when Benn, Watson, Eubanks and Collins were fighting.

[DavilaJones]

Ahem....Robert Fitsimmons > all Lol well at least in the punching department as far as middleweights go.

[greynotsoold]

LaMotta stops Hearns in 6 or 7 rounds. Hagler outpoints Hopkins. Monzon beats Martinez, probably by late tko. Robinson beats Leonard.
LaMotta beats Hagler on a very very tight decision over 15. Monzon outpoints Robinson.
In a 15 round fight that really could go either way I think that LaMotta would beat Monzon. Very close and I could easily see it going the other way.

[Master]

LaMotta stops Hearns in 6 or 7 rounds. Hagler outpoints Hopkins. Monzon beats Martinez, probably by late tko. Robinson beats Leonard.
LaMotta beats Hagler on a very very tight decision over 15. Monzon outpoints Robinson.
In a 15 round fight that really could go either way I think that LaMotta would beat Monzon. Very close and I could easily see it going the other way.

LaMotta was not that skilled to beat Hagler, Robinson and Monzon, he could be outboxed by the very best boxers which these guys were.

[greynotsoold]

LaMotta stops Hearns in 6 or 7 rounds. Hagler outpoints Hopkins. Monzon beats Martinez, probably by late tko. Robinson beats Leonard.
LaMotta beats Hagler on a very very tight decision over 15. Monzon outpoints Robinson.
In a 15 round fight that really could go either way I think that LaMotta would beat Monzon. Very close and I could easily see it going the other way.

LaMotta was not that skilled to beat Hagler, Robinson and Monzon, he could be outboxed by the very best boxers which these guys were.

I figure that Hagler had a real rough night with Antuofermo in their first fight and, while Hagler certainly improved, LaMotta was much, much more than Antuofermo. He'd make Hagler fight him toe-to-toe for long stretches, and that wasn't really Marvin's game, though he certainly could do that.
More or less the same with Monzon; LaMotta would make him fight. A lot of guys, Robinson among them (and remember, he and LaMotta were in several ultra-close fights when they were both at about their best), said LaMotta was real hard to hit with anything but the jab. He'd give you that to make you throw something he could get around and work off of. I think he would be able to draw both Hagler and Monzon into wars and that that would play to LaMotta's advantage. Though it would not suprise me to see either of these fights play out that way and go to the other fighter.

[Master]

Laurent Dauthuille outboxed him and Ray Robinson beat him most of the time