Tyson Fury wants to fight the UFC Heavyweight champion?

[p4pking]

I just don't think either man is a special athlete. I'd much rather watch someone who was incredibly good at one disicpline than a cockfight. Aesthetically, I find most ground fighting to be repulsive regardless of how difficult or skillfull it may be, I'll admit that.

To be calling MMA cockfighting is pretty ignorant. I also think it is ridiculous to suggest they're not quality athletes. MMA is a tough sport, so to get to the top requires a high level of skill. Fury wouldn't last very long in a cage. I'll admit I'm exaggerating with the length, but I wouldn't be stunned if Cain stopped him in a Boxing fight.

I didn't call MMA in general a cockfight, although it certainly can be. I was thinking specifically of the fight last weeked between Cain and Junior. That was shit to watch in large part, Dos Santos was completely out of gas unable to fight back and just getting hit while turtling on the ground for much of the fight, not my cup of tea. And to suggest Cain could beat anyone who only boxes for a living at a high level is purely hypocritical given that you accuse me of being ignorant.

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I just don't think either man is a special athlete. I'd much rather watch someone who was incredibly good at one disicpline than a cockfight. Aesthetically, I find most ground fighting to be repulsive regardless of how difficult or skillfull it may be, I'll admit that.

To be calling MMA cockfighting is pretty ignorant. I also think it is ridiculous to suggest they're not quality athletes. MMA is a tough sport, so to get to the top requires a high level of skill. Fury wouldn't last very long in a cage. I'll admit I'm exaggerating with the length, but I wouldn't be stunned if Cain stopped him in a Boxing fight.

I didn't call MMA in general a cockfight, although it certainly can be. I was thinking specifically of the fight last weeked between Cain and Junior. That was shit to watch in large part, Dos Santos was completely out of gas unable to fight back and just getting hit while turtling on the ground for much of the fight, not my cup of tea. And to suggest Cain could beat anyone who only boxes for a living at a high level is purely hypocritical given that you accuse me of being ignorant.

I have yet to see Fury box at a high level, which is pretty much why I have the opinion I have. For now, he's all smoke and mirrors.

As for the Cain & Junior fight, Cain dropped him hard. If that'd been boxing, the fight would have been stopped. He didn't even recover for 3 rounds, because he was allowed to. If you'd seen Junior fight before, I think you'd be plenty more impressed.

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I just don't think either man is a special athlete. I'd much rather watch someone who was incredibly good at one disicpline than a cockfight. Aesthetically, I find most ground fighting to be repulsive regardless of how difficult or skillfull it may be, I'll admit that.

To be calling MMA cockfighting is pretty ignorant. I also think it is ridiculous to suggest they're not quality athletes. MMA is a tough sport, so to get to the top requires a high level of skill. Fury wouldn't last very long in a cage. I'll admit I'm exaggerating with the length, but I wouldn't be stunned if Cain stopped him in a Boxing fight.

I didn't call MMA in general a cockfight, although it certainly can be. I was thinking specifically of the fight last weeked between Cain and Junior. That was shit to watch in large part, Dos Santos was completely out of gas unable to fight back and just getting hit while turtling on the ground for much of the fight, not my cup of tea. And to suggest Cain could beat anyone who only boxes for a living at a high level is purely hypocritical given that you accuse me of being ignorant.

I have yet to see Fury box at a high level, which is pretty much why I have the opinion I have. For now, he's all smoke and mirrors.

As for the Cain & Junior fight, Cain dropped him hard. If that'd been boxing, the fight would have been stopped. He didn't even recover for 3 rounds, because he was allowed to. If you'd seen Junior fight before, I think you'd be plenty more impressed.

Right, but they are different sports. Boxing at a high level means boxing a hell of a lot better than anybody in the history of MMA ever has, that's just a no brainer. I actually did see the first fight between Cain and Junior as well, I can only imagine Santos either didn't get into proper condition for the rematch or is a complete kill or be killed fighter, haven't seen enough of him to know. Either way, the fact that they can both land the kind of bombs they did on each other within the opening minute only cements that they are not very good boxers, to me.

[Master]

Fury wants to fight Vitali this year, he will not waste his time with anything else.

[erics44]

ha, you small stiff idiot tits

i think its quite funny

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I do think that it takes a certain amount of skill to get to the top in mma but I think it takes more skill to get anywhere in boxing.

In mma you have so many different disciplines you can fall on if one is failing. In boxing you only have punching.

I think boxing is like football where mma is like a hybrid between football and rugby. In football, you only have your feet but in the hybrid, if you arent as skilled as Matt Le Tissier, you could just pick the ball up and run through your opponent.

[Beanflicker]

In mma you have so many different disciplines you can fall on if one is failing. In boxing you only have punching.

That was true for MMA years ago, but the sport has evolved now to the point where you have to be REALLY, REALLY good at everything. If you have a weakness, someone's going to exploit it.

[Silkeyjoe]

In mma you have so many different disciplines you can fall on if one is failing. In boxing you only have punching.

That was true for MMA years ago, but the sport has evolved now to the point where you have to be REALLY, REALLY good at everything. If you have a weakness, someone's going to exploit it.

That's BS! There's only a handful of fighters in the UFC who are really really good at everything, most are just good at their original discipline and wouldn't stand a chance if entered a comp in another field they are "good" in

[Beanflicker]

That's BS! There's only a handful of fighters in the UFC who are really really good at everything, most are just good at their original discipline and wouldn't stand a chance if entered a comp in another field they are "good" in

Being "really good" at something doesn't mean you're the best in the world at it. That's nearly impossible. Can you think of ANY athlete who was world class at two sports? Bo Jackson and Deon Sanders are the only two I can think of (football and baseball).

There have been tons of MMA fighters who have fought pro boxing with success, there are tons of MMA fighters who have gone into ADCC and other grappling tournements and dominated.

To have any success in the UFC, you have to have good standup skills, wrestling skills and submission skills, or else you don't last long.