Someone just fight James Toney!

[Gandalf]

Oh Oh I have red hair to thanks to those bloddy Celtic inbreds but Toney has been a none entity in boxing for about a decade. Haye is an underachieving con artist but he'd kick the shit out of Toney.

Unless it happens you can never prove it.

Miles... I know you have an inexplicable level of adoration for Toney... but come on. That's pretty weak logic.

If it were any worse then it would be the same as saying that you can't prove that we can't prove who would win a sprint until Toney runs 100m against Usain Bolt.

When you get fighters at a similar level in their careers you can say such things, but Toney is so ruined that it is no where near close enough to make such assertions.

Before you say 'you can never bne 100% certain', you're right... but you can be more than certain enough!

All I want is for someone in the top 10 top put him out of his misery if that is the consensus. I've got no issues with people thinking Toney is done, but let me see it with my own eyes and without blatant leg injuries. Just someone in the top 20 then, just someone call that man and let him prove for himself if he can put on a show or not.

He loses and it is done, accepted. But Toney has been wronged. He beat Rahman and Rahman got a shot, everyone avoids him because he 'is old', the truth is Toney is just too testy and no younger fighter wants to be embarrarred.