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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
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    He is all wrong for Sergio. Great champion but GG by KO.
    I'm in total agreement with Beanz, I can only see Sergio being badly ko,d , in fact he will make it
    look easy.
    @Greenbeanz and @Dia bando - Perhaps, but first the Argentine will send another fighter from the UK back bloodied and disfigured when he decapitatates Martin Murray in April. For the record, that will mark his third time recently doing so. What does Sergio Martinez have against you guys anyway? Bitter about the Falkland Islands?
    Wtf are u on about? 'Falkland islands'

    My uncle fought in that conflict so show some fuckin respect. This is boxing not politics.
    I didn't mean any disrespect and I apologize if you were disrespected by the comment.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    He is all wrong for Sergio. Great champion but GG by KO.
    I'm in total agreement with Beanz, I can only see Sergio being badly ko,d , in fact he will make it
    look easy.
    @Greenbeanz and @Dia bando - Perhaps, but first the Argentine will send another fighter from the UK back bloodied and disfigured when he decapitatates Martin Murray in April. For the record, that will mark his third time recently doing so. What does Sergio Martinez have against you guys anyway? Bitter about the Falkland Islands?
    Wtf are u on about? 'Falkland islands'

    My uncle fought in that conflict so show some fuckin respect. This is boxing not politics.
    I didn't mean any disrespect and I apologize if you were disrespected by the comment.
    Cool. No probs.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    What fight were you watching because I seen GR land a few jabs and get battered the rest of the time against a fighter who was ill prior to the bout. He wasn't even 100%.

    Proksa and Rosado would have given any of the top 160-pounders a challenge regardless of how highly u rate them! Golovkin beat down two experienced, in-their-prime, well-schooled fighters — fighters who came in to win, didn’t give up, but were beat up, bloodied, and stopped. Give the guy his dues...

    Golovkin was lined up for Geale, but Geale went elsewhere (i.e. Mundine).

    Golovkin was signed to fight Pirog, but Pirog pulled out with injury.

    Golovkin called out Sturm for two years, and Sturm continually went elsewhere (up until Geale beat his ass).

    And rumours are around the net that Quillin was soundly beaten up by Golovkin in the gym (the rumour is that Golovkin actually KO’ed him, which is VERY rare for sparring, but reports consistently state that Golovkin spars hard)… and in an interview with Quillin on ESB he didn’t deny it… he just vaguely sidestepped the question.

    Yes he needs to fight better competition, but it’s THE COMPETITION that is avoiding him, not the other way around. Does anyone really think Geale would beat a 100% GGG? 2013 is GGG's year.

    Can't wait to see Pirog back too.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    What fight were you watching because I seen GR land a few jabs and get battered the rest of the time against a fighter who was ill prior to the bout. He wasn't even 100%.

    Proksa and Rosado would have given any of the top 160-pounders a challenge regardless of how highly u rate them! Golovkin beat down two experienced, in-their-prime, well-schooled fighters — fighters who came in to win, didn’t give up, but were beat up, bloodied, and stopped. Give the guy his dues...

    Golovkin was lined up for Geale, but Geale went elsewhere (i.e. Mundine).

    Golovkin was signed to fight Pirog, but Pirog pulled out with injury.

    Golovkin called out Sturm for two years, and Sturm continually went elsewhere (up until Geale beat his ass).

    And rumours are around the net that Quillin was soundly beaten up by Golovkin in the gym (the rumour is that Golovkin actually KO’ed him, which is VERY rare for sparring, but reports consistently state that Golovkin spars hard)… and in an interview with Quillin on ESB he didn’t deny it… he just vaguely sidestepped the question.

    Yes he needs to fight better competition, but it’s THE COMPETITION that is avoiding him, not the other way around. Does anyone really think Geale would beat a 100% GGG? 2013 is GGG's year.

    Can't wait to see Pirog back too.
    What you are saying is he is being avoided, I can't blame them the 3 top rated Brit's should give this
    guy a wide berth.If they do I can see it ending in tears for them.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Because Golovkin didn't flatten Rosado in the way that many out there predicted he would, Golovkin now looks vulnerable. Consider though that Golovkin won every single round and that Rosado's face looked like a bloody mess when the fight was finished. Rosado is a junior middleweight but he is a big junior middleweight. I say that just because I didn't see a big size difference in the fight. I also have a higher opinion of Rosado than other people here. I think he's a cagey, calculated fighter...and, Golovkin beat him him pretty easily.

    All that said, Rosado isn't a top ten middleweight. Golovkin still needs a defining fight at middleweight before we can start suggesting he would beat the lineal champion. It's unfair to Martinez.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Because Golovkin didn't flatten Rosado in the way that many out there predicted he would, Golovkin now looks vulnerable. Consider though that Golovkin won every single round and that Rosado's face looked like a bloody mess when the fight was finished. Rosado is a junior middleweight but he is a big junior middleweight. I say that just because I didn't see a big size difference in the fight. I also have a higher opinion of Rosado than other people here. I think he's a cagey, calculated fighter...and, Golovkin beat him him pretty easily.

    All that said, Rosado isn't a top ten middleweight. Golovkin still needs a defining fight at middleweight before we can start suggesting he would beat the lineal champion. It's unfair to Martinez.
    I agree with most of that. Who do u want to see him fight next? Pirog or Barker would be good.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    I would like him to fight Quillon, Geale or Strum.
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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Because Golovkin didn't flatten Rosado in the way that many out there predicted he would, Golovkin now looks vulnerable. Consider though that Golovkin won every single round and that Rosado's face looked like a bloody mess when the fight was finished. Rosado is a junior middleweight but he is a big junior middleweight. I say that just because I didn't see a big size difference in the fight. I also have a higher opinion of Rosado than other people here. I think he's a cagey, calculated fighter...and, Golovkin beat him him pretty easily.

    All that said, Rosado isn't a top ten middleweight. Golovkin still needs a defining fight at middleweight before we can start suggesting he would beat the lineal champion. It's unfair to Martinez.
    I agree with most of that. Who do u want to see him fight next? Pirog or Barker would be good.
    With regard to Barker, I think Hearn should use his magic and get him a higher-level fight against Geale or Quillin, before Barker challenges GGG. But, I guess if the fight is offered, it might be heard to turn down for Barker, depending on the money involved.

    From what I gather, N'Jikam, Macklin, Quillin, Sturm and Geale have turned down fights with Golvokin. Murray is going to to Argentina to fight Martinez. I have heard rumors that Pirog is partially retired or is retiring. I'm not sure it would be smart for his first fight after such a long lay off to be GGG, if he isn't retired. We KNOW Junior isn't fighting Golovkin. I don't really know who else is out there.

    Here's an odd idea - how about Austin Trout? Golovkin allegedly has difficulty with boxers. Trout can box. Golovkin can bang.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    What fight were you watching because I seen GR land a few jabs and get battered the rest of the time against a fighter who was ill prior to the bout. He wasn't even 100%.

    Proksa and Rosado would have given any of the top 160-pounders a challenge regardless of how highly u rate them! Golovkin beat down two experienced, in-their-prime, well-schooled fighters — fighters who came in to win, didn’t give up, but were beat up, bloodied, and stopped. Give the guy his dues...

    Golovkin was lined up for Geale, but Geale went elsewhere (i.e. Mundine).

    Golovkin was signed to fight Pirog, but Pirog pulled out with injury.

    Golovkin called out Sturm for two years, and Sturm continually went elsewhere (up until Geale beat his ass).

    And rumours are around the net that Quillin was soundly beaten up by Golovkin in the gym (the rumour is that Golovkin actually KO’ed him, which is VERY rare for sparring, but reports consistently state that Golovkin spars hard)… and in an interview with Quillin on ESB he didn’t deny it… he just vaguely sidestepped the question.

    Yes he needs to fight better competition, but it’s THE COMPETITION that is avoiding him, not the other way around. Does anyone really think Geale would beat a 100% GGG? 2013 is GGG's year.

    Can't wait to see Pirog back too.
    Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.

    Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.

    Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.

    (a fighter signed to HBO has the backing to get top 10 fighters in the ring. Fact.)
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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.
    So? Rosado actually looked the bigger man anyway. Fair play he was game but ultimately put in his place by a less than 100% GGG. I'm not really over-hyping the win it was just another stepping stone IMO. Note also that Rosado barely won a round as evidenced by the judges scores! Don't be so harsh on someone who was clearly operating below par anyway. He got the job done.

    Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.
    Proksa was a stand in for undefeated Pirog who is easily a top 10 MW having dominated undefeated american prospect Jacobs and world class Ishida. U can't criticise a man for fighting a stand in (and a solid one at that!)...

    Proksa debateably lost to Hope IMO. Hope won a close MD. They fought for a second time and Proksa stopped him! Proska also dominated Sylvester who pushed both Geale and Karmazin to to a SD! So he's not that bad is he? (Karmazin beat Echols. Tatevosyan. Ouma. Keith Holmes etc and only lost to Cory spinks by a close MD. )

    Do u think Barker beat's Golovkin? Pirog if he get's fit beats Barker too IMO. Martinez may be the man now but he won't be in 2 years time and i doubt he will give GGG a shot any time soon. He is content to fight good but not great British MW's (a division that is neglected in britain due to the prominence of our SMW's like Calzaghe, Froch and Groves!) Im a Martinez fan anyway......

    Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.
    I know a good fighter when i see one. He more than backed it up in the AMS and will do so and is doing so as a pro too. All in good time....
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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.
    So? Rosado actually looked the bigger man anyway. Fair play he was game but ultimately put in his place by a less than 100% GGG. I'm not really over-hyping the win it was just another stepping stone IMO. Note also that Rosado barely won a round as evidenced by the judges scores! Don't be so harsh on someone who was clearly operating below par anyway. He got the job done.

    Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.
    Proksa was a stand in for undefeated Pirog who is easily a top 10 MW having dominated undefeated american prospect Jacobs and world class Ishida. U can't criticise a man for fighting a stand in (and a solid one at that!)...

    Proksa debateably lost to Hope IMO. Hope won a close MD. They fought for a second time and Proksa stopped him! Proska also dominated Sylvester who pushed both Geale and Karmazin to to a SD! So he's not that bad is he? (Karmazin beat Echols. Tatevosyan. Ouma. Keith Holmes etc and only lost to Cory spinks by a close MD. )

    Do u think Barker beat's Golovkin? Pirog if he get's fit beats Barker too IMO. Martinez may be the man now but he won't be in 2 years time and i doubt he will give GGG a shot any time soon. He is content to fight good but not great British MW's (a division that is neglected in britain due to the prominence of our SMW's like Calzaghe, Froch and Groves!) Im a Martinez fan anyway......

    Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.
    I know a good fighter when i see one. He more than backed it up in the AMS and will do so and is doing so as a pro too. All in good time....
    1. All you Golovkin fans "know a good fighter when they see one?" Nobody is disagreeing with that. However, he is not "super fighter" until he steps up in class and proves it. Some of us prefer actual evidence. His current record is not a patch on Martinez.

    2. I think he would beat Barker.
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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Rosado had 5 losses, had never fought for a "world" title and never fought at middleweight.
    So? Rosado actually looked the bigger man anyway. Fair play he was game but ultimately put in his place by a less than 100% GGG. I'm not really over-hyping the win it was just another stepping stone IMO. Note also that Rosado barely won a round as evidenced by the judges scores! Don't be so harsh on someone who was clearly operating below par anyway. He got the job done.

    Proksa had lost to powderpuff puncher Kerry Hope, had never fought for a "world" title and Darren Barker, a man that proved himself world-class with his effort against THE real middleweight champion, then slaughtered Hope in 4 rounds making the Proksa form look rubbish.
    Proksa was a stand in for undefeated Pirog who is easily a top 10 MW having dominated undefeated american prospect Jacobs and world class Ishida. U can't criticise a man for fighting a stand in (and a solid one at that!)...

    Proksa debateably lost to Hope IMO. Hope won a close MD. They fought for a second time and Proksa stopped him! Proska also dominated Sylvester who pushed both Geale and Karmazin to to a SD! So he's not that bad is he? (Karmazin beat Echols. Tatevosyan. Ouma. Keith Holmes etc and only lost to Cory spinks by a close MD. )

    Do u think Barker beat's Golovkin? Pirog if he get's fit beats Barker too IMO. Martinez may be the man now but he won't be in 2 years time and i doubt he will give GGG a shot any time soon. He is content to fight good but not great British MW's (a division that is neglected in britain due to the prominence of our SMW's like Calzaghe, Froch and Groves!) Im a Martinez fan anyway......

    Even if everyone is "ducking" Golovkin, until he actually beats proven world-class fighters, he is nothing more than potential. That's it.
    I know a good fighter when i see one. He more than backed it up in the AMS and will do so and is doing so as a pro too. All in good time....
    1. All you Golovkin fans "know a good fighter when they see one?" Nobody is disagreeing with that. However, he is not "super fighter" until he steps up in class and proves it. Some of us prefer actual evidence. His current record is not a patch on Martinez.

    2. I think he would beat Barker.
    I never said he was super , but he is very good yes Martinez has a fine record as for stepping up in
    class it seems the other Champions don't want to face him, is that his fault no I don't blame them
    as boxing is about money, weather we like it or not it's a business.

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    Default Re: Golovkin is the future of the MW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    1. All you Golovkin fans "know a good fighter when they see one?" Nobody is disagreeing with that. However, he is not "super fighter" until he steps up in class and proves it. Some of us prefer actual evidence. His current record is not a patch on Martinez.
    I think Fenster is just upset because it's looking like Eastern european domination is about to begin in the MW division now too! This is what the future of 160 looks like:



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