Great Win by Solido.

[ruthless rocco]

It's a sham that salido is willing to walk thru any kind of hell to win, loses his championship belt to a kid who quits on his stool cause he's having trouble breathing.

[DavilaJones]

Well not everyone can be like Abrhams and fight with a broken jaw I suppose. Still at least people know he's not mentally tough. However will they be able to take advantage of that fact?

[Spicoli]

It's a sham that salido is willing to walk thru any kind of hell to win, loses his championship belt to a kid who quits on his stool cause he's having trouble breathing.

Its a shame to finally see that very same face first at all costs style finally catch up and have him look like a dominated and war torn fighter on his last legs to a young fighter who boxed his ears clean off.

[Hulk]

I was pissed as well that Garcia took the easy win, especially after Salido had gone to hell and back, enduring 4 knockdowns and never giving up.

However, there is a good chance that in his desperation and quest for revenge Salido did in fact intentionally headbutt Garcia.

I was rooting for Salido the whole time, screaming at the TV, but he was getting dominated for much of the fight and fighting foolishly.

There is no sense in being this bitter and pretending that it was Salido win.

It was a Garcia win, slightly cheapened by opting to go to the scorecards. You could tell afterwards Garcia felt a little bit guilty about taking the victory that way, but otherwise he looked like Doniare out there practically.

[IamInuit]

I wonder what people would have said if the intentional head butt had caused a gusher and ended the fight. Say it was not intentional? In either case the fight would have been stopped and they would have gone to the cards. Garcia could not breathe and breathing is kind of an integral part of the sport. I guess Israel Vazquez has no heart either because he retired on his stool with the same injury because he could not breathe in the first Marquez fight.

[Mars_ax]

I wonder what people would have said if the intentional head butt had caused a gusher and ended the fight. Say it was not intentional? In either case the fight would have been stopped and they would have gone to the cards. Garcia could not breathe and breathing is kind of an integral part of the sport. I guess Israel Vazquez has no heart either because he retired on his stool with the same injury because he could not breathe in the first Marquez fight.

What's most annoying is implying that Garcia is a "quitter" with no heart who just took the easy way out. These are the same type of idiots who criticized Cotto for taking a knee in his first fight against Margacheato. According to their "code of cojones", if you aren't willing to die in the ring, you're a fucking coward.

[IamInuit]

I wonder what people would have said if the intentional head butt had caused a gusher and ended the fight. Say it was not intentional? In either case the fight would have been stopped and they would have gone to the cards. Garcia could not breathe and breathing is kind of an integral part of the sport. I guess Israel Vazquez has no heart either because he retired on his stool with the same injury because he could not breathe in the first Marquez fight.

What's most annoying is implying that Garcia is a "quitter" with no heart who just took the easy way out. These are the same type of idiots who criticized Cotto for taking a knee in his first fight against Margacheato. According to their "code of cojones", if you aren't willing to die in the ring, you're a fucking coward.

Its ignorant and comical at the same time. A dangerous marriage. I actually thought it was some kind of inside joke at first because nobody could be that subjective. I sit corrected.

[Mars_ax]

I wonder what people would have said if the intentional head butt had caused a gusher and ended the fight. Say it was not intentional? In either case the fight would have been stopped and they would have gone to the cards. Garcia could not breathe and breathing is kind of an integral part of the sport. I guess Israel Vazquez has no heart either because he retired on his stool with the same injury because he could not breathe in the first Marquez fight.

What's most annoying is implying that Garcia is a "quitter" with no heart who just took the easy way out. These are the same type of idiots who criticized Cotto for taking a knee in his first fight against Margacheato. According to their "code of cojones", if you aren't willing to die in the ring, you're a fucking coward.

Its ignorant and comical at the same time. A dangerous marriage. I actually thought it was some kind of inside joke at first because nobody could be that subjective. I sit corrected.

I think it's even sillier than that, these clowns either bet money on Salido (spelled correctly) or predicted he would win, and now they're just pissed because Garcia won.

[ruthless rocco]

Pussies...

[Beanflicker]

To everyone bashing Garcia: you are COMPLETELY insane. Why should a guy have to fight after an illegal headbutt smashed his nose? If it was a legal punch and he quit on his stool, I'd agree. But both ring doctor's looked at it and told the ref the fight was over. What can you do?

Garcia looked sharp as a tack and gave Salido a hellacious beating for the majority of the fight. He deserved the win.

[Kirkland Laing]

The headbutt wasn't ruled illegal during the fight. Like I already said in another thread Israel Vazquez couldn't continue because he couldn't breathe in the first Marquez fight and the ref stopped it. Why should this fight be any different?

Garcia was amile ahead and it would have been unfair for him to lose due to a butt but tough fucking luck, shit happens. And it isn't sour grapes, I picked him to win and I thought he boxed really well. But the fact remains he quit.

[Beanflicker]

The headbutt wasn't ruled illegal during the fight.

A headbutt is ALWAYS illegal in a boxing ring. It was ruled unintentional, which means that if the doctor decides that the fighter shouldn't continue - which in this case, they did - the fight goes to the scorecards as opposed to Salido being DQ'd.

Toughness in a boxer is the ability to withstand and persevere through physical injury and pain in the hopes of winning the fight. A guy breaks his hand, he keeps punching with it. Has his eye cut up and swollen from punches, he keeps on fighting. Being tough is taking the steps necessary - no matter how difficult - to win the fight.

Taking unneccesary risks isn't tough. It's stupidity. Fighting on when you have absolutely no need to isn't tough, it's stupid. It's not like he tried to weasle his way out of a fight by faking an injury. It was legit, the doc's wanted to stop it and they did.

Shame on anyone who questions his courage because of that. Sometimes boxing fans are illogically needy.

[IamInuit]

The headbutt wasn't ruled illegal during the fight. Like I already said in another thread Israel Vazquez couldn't continue because he couldn't breathe in the first Marquez fight and the ref stopped it. Why should this fight be any different?

Garcia was amile ahead and it would have been unfair for him to lose due to a butt but tough fucking luck, shit happens. And it isn't sour grapes, I picked him to win and I thought he boxed really well. But the fact remains he quit.

It makes little difference whether it was ruled intentional or not as in many cases they have still gone to the cards or its ruled long after the infraction. Had it been ruled intentional Salido could have been dq'd. The facts are the facts Mr. Lang and I guess what I'm having trouble with most is the flagrant use of the term "quit"

Duran quit against Leonard. Robinson did not quit against Maxim, Greb did not quit against Kid Graves and Garcia did not quit against Salido.

I wonder how many people here have had their nose broken or had a break that high and then tried to do anything athletically strenuous let alone box? These are prize fights with careers on the line. Keep in mind that Garcias real career and drawing years have just begone as he had just out on a clinic. Not only could he not breathe properly but he would have ran the risk of further injury to the area which could have been career ending. Seriously this is boxing 101 shit. I'm going to back out of this thread now hands at my side because I still think this is a joke from the antagonists play book.