Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time heavyweights?

[Fenster]

Would you have him fight brother? Personally I don't think that's a good idea. Think of it this way, he would have to train, both of them in fact would have to train for 6 to 8 weeks for the sole purpose of beating up, roughing up and perhaps knocking out their brother who from all indications are very close to each other.


To beat up your own brother who love for money fame just doesn't sit well with me. However boxing is a cruel business and perhaps I'm sentimental in this regard.

No he shouldn't fight his brother, but at the same time you shouldn't just ignore the fact there's a top TWO instead of a no.1

Since 2008, when Vitali came back from retirement, the brothers have occupied the top two positions. During this time they've had 18 fights between them with just ONE common opponent. 17 different title challengers.

How can you establish a pecking order of the worlds best heavyweights if the top two are facing completely different opposition?

In this very thread @THE PHILOSOPHER is claiming Solis is better than Briggs and Rahman. Wlad has never even fought Solis, so if he is such a worthy challenger, then surely the no.1 of this era would have fought him? No but his brother did. Just like Wlad fought Haye but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Adamek but Wlad didn't. Wlad fought Chagaev but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Arreola but Wlad didn't.

They might as well be competing in two completely different divisions. There isn't a clear no.1 heavyweight champion and there's no clear line of top challengers.

The Klitschko's are individuals and should be judged as such. Boxing is not a tag team sport.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

In this very thread @THE PHILOSOPHER is claiming Solis is better than Briggs and Rahman. Wlad has never even fought Solis, so if he is such a worthy challenger, then surely the no.1 of this era would have fought him? No but his brother did. Just like Wlad fought Haye but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Adamek but Wlad didn't. Wlad fought Chagaev but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Arreola but Wlad didn't.

I never stated Wlad has fought Solis! I only mentioned him when other posters brought VK into the thread discussion.

And yes Solis is way better than Briggs ever was.

[erics44]

In this very thread @THE PHILOSOPHER is claiming Solis is better than Briggs and Rahman. Wlad has never even fought Solis, so if he is such a worthy challenger, then surely the no.1 of this era would have fought him? No but his brother did. Just like Wlad fought Haye but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Adamek but Wlad didn't. Wlad fought Chagaev but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Arreola but Wlad didn't.

I never stated Wlad has fought Solis! I only mentioned him when other posters brought VK into the thread discussion.

And yes Solis is way better than Briggs ever was.

he was winning till vitali knocked him out

[Fenster]

In this very thread @THE PHILOSOPHER is claiming Solis is better than Briggs and Rahman. Wlad has never even fought Solis, so if he is such a worthy challenger, then surely the no.1 of this era would have fought him? No but his brother did. Just like Wlad fought Haye but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Adamek but Wlad didn't. Wlad fought Chagaev but Vitali didn't. Vitali fought Arreola but Wlad didn't.

I never stated Wlad has fought Solis! I only mentioned him when other posters brought VK into the thread discussion.

And yes Solis is way better than Briggs ever was.

The point is - you mentioned Solis as a good win for this era, however, the supposed no.1 didn't beat him his brother did.

The division has been diluted.

[Gandalf]

I suggest 27 and only with a ref that supports clinching.

[erics44]

I suggest 27 and only with a ref that supports clinching.

this is very true

following the rules wlad would have lost his title long ago