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    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Under achiever.

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    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Under achiever.
    Thats what I think but read in boxing new mag that someone thought he overachieved considering he was knocked down by Miranda and Taylor but got up to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
    This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
    I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
    This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
    I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.
    Agree. What I will say is that had it not been for his personal problems, be they caused by the Hopkins pasting or not, I reckon Pavlik would still be middleweight champion today. For that reason alone I believe he underachieved.

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