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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Tua wins by knockout, in the first 3.
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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Come on! Frazier was dropped multiple times by Bonavena and foreman!

    Tua's left hook was immense! Frazier was not a slick boxer either he was a come forward brawler....

    Tua via brutal stoppage. Fraziers power would not affect Tua. 240lb monster puncher Ike's couldn't!
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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Tua had brutish power in his left hook

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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Tua's left hook was O...FOR...AWESOME!

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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Wow, I think we may be looking at things through the lens of the present day here.

    Tua was a powerful hitter, but he never actually won anything much and lost most of his biggest fights.

    Joe Frazier was a tough, tough man, an Olympic heavyweight gold medallist and the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

    He had the firepower to blast through nearly all of his opponents, and ravaged Ali in their first fight, knocking him down hard along the way. A slow starter, he was almost impervious to punishment once he got into his rhythmn

    People actually think Tua would walk through this guy and stop him early?
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    It's a fact Tua , has been found wanting a the very top level, both powerful both tough SOB'S pity we
    will never no.!

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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Tua was a powerful hitter, but he never actually won anything much and lost most of his biggest fights.
    Yep, exactly the point I was going to post. Rahman, Ruiz and Maskaev are all solid wins, but he never really did anything or beat anybody, for me to put in the same league as a man that held his own for 4o or so rounds against Muhammad Ali.
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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Unless Tua lands a bomb in the first 3-4 rounds he gets beat up badly. Joes bobbing and weaving combined with his constant pressure would be a massive massive problem for Tua. Tua was never the best conditioned heavyweight. Joe in his prime was a machine.

    Tua is a tough man but would prob only win 1 or 2 rounds after the 6th

    Joe on a wide points win for me.
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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Say what? Jesus the old timers nostalgia brigade are delusional! Did you see what happened in the two fights with George Foreman? Did you see Joe get stunned by guys like Ramos, Chuvalo, Stander, etc? Did u see Bonavena drop him twice? Joe had a very vulnerable chin. I think it would be a massacre and that's not disrespectful it's being real! Im not stuck in the fuckin past. Fraziers style would play right into the hands of Tua..

    Did u see Tua's fight with the 240lb murderous punching IKE? That fight was highly debateable as to who nicked it! That fight set a CompuBox record for most combined punches thrown in a heavyweight fight! So dn't try and make out Tua could not hang with the smaller Frazier! Tua's chin is immense. His left hook is immense. Joe frazier was a come forward brawler and against the only real power puncher he faced he was violently schooled! And don't cite Byrd... Chris was a slick, defensive minded, southpaw not remotely similar to Joe!

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    Default Re: Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
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    Tua was a powerful hitter, but he never actually won anything much and lost most of his biggest fights.
    Yep, exactly the point I was going to post. Rahman, Ruiz and Maskaev are all solid wins, but he never really did anything or beat anybody, for me to put in the same league as a man that held his own for 4o or so rounds against Muhammad Ali.
    That doesn't factor in styles at all though. Ken Norton more than held his own with Ali for as many rounds but was hopeless against a knockout puncher, and Frazier was only slightly tougher or less susceptible to an early attack. Tua was limited no doubt, but how exactly does Frazier neutralize his power. He wasn't exactly a Lennox Lewis type fighter now was he.. He'd have to get inside and fight with Tua to win, and I don't see how he wouldn't get the worst of that myself.
    I think if anything Frazier gets severlely overrated on behalf of being Ali's nemesis, he didn't really beat anyone else better than David Tua for my money.
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