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    Default Re: George Forman VS David Tua + Tyson VS Tua + Tyson VS Forman + Tyson VS Vitali

    Quote Originally Posted by TysonBomb View Post
    LOL thats complete garbage

    Tyson had lost to Douglas in 1990 and Foreman went on to fight Holyfield for the title.

    Tyson was in rebuilding mode and took on Razor Ruddock, who was leagues above fat, slow, faded Foreman who didn't even deserve a title shot. Holyfield actually ducked Ruddock to fight Foreman ... Bowe also avoided him. So how did Tyson "duck" Foreman when Foreman went on to fight Holyfield for the title? He "ducked" him because Foreman chose to take a title fight? The truth is that Foreman didn't deserve a title bout and Holyfield should have fought either Tyson or Ruddock, the two best fighters in the division. Foreman's biggest win was Gerry Cooney at that time, who was a bum. Holyfield saw him as an easy opponent who would generate a lot of cash so he fought him.

    By the time he was released from prison he was collecting titles and then "lost" to Holyfield around the same time Foreman lost to Shannon Briggs.

    Foreman lost to Tommy Morrison ... Tyson would've beaten him too ... look at how these morons try and prop up Gerry Cooney vs George Foreman as some kind of amazing fight that showed Foreman was "legit." Foreman was slow and fat and beat on another fat and slow bum. He beat one of the weakest champions around in Michael Moorer to win two heavyweight titles ... and Moorer clearly outboxed him the entire fight. That article has no credibility at all and any moron who was simply aware at what was going on in the year 1990 and after knows that.
    You were not aware of what was going on in 1990, because you've already said you weren't watching boxing at the time.

    What was actually going on? In 1990, this was THE fight the public wanted to see. The waters were tested when Tyson and Foreman fought on the same bill which was dubbed "The road back" Bob Arum publicly offered them both a hundred million, claiming this was a quarter of a billion PPV spectacular

    Was Mike afraid? Don't know. Don't really care. I'd have asked him had I known I would have raised this topic. The bit I find strange is that the clamor for this fight was such that stories of Tyson being afraid were in the newspapers and magazine on an almost weekly basis. Foreman would appear on any show that would have him, even turning up to commentate on Mike's fights stating Tyson was scared, and he would knock him out with ease, any time, any place, etc.

    I have never seen a response from Tyson or team Tyson denying the accusations, or explaining why the fight never happened, save interviews from people such as the guy who wrote that article above who claimed to be in the know.

    I expect in 20 years time I'll be on here debating with a young pup who is claiming that there was no public interest in Floyd v Pacquiao in 2010, and Pacquiao hadn't earned his shot.

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    Default Re: George Forman VS David Tua + Tyson VS Tua + Tyson VS Forman + Tyson VS Vitali

    Tyson lost to Douglas and Foreman took a title fight against Holyfield

    Tyson didn't avoid Foreman and Foreman didn't avoid Tyson ... and after the way Foreman was outclassed by Holyfield, his stock dropped ... as did Tyson's when he lost to Douglas.

    Tyson tried to redeem himself by taking on a bigger and better challenge than Foreman in Razor Ruddock.

    The public may have wanted it at one point but I'm sure that changed after Tyson lost.

    Citing that ahole scumbag Arum means nothing. The circumstances didn't allow this fight to transpire.

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    Default Re: George Forman VS David Tua + Tyson VS Tua + Tyson VS Forman + Tyson VS Vitali

    Quote Originally Posted by TysonBomb View Post

    Tyson tried to redeem himself by taking on a bigger and better challenge than Foreman in Razor Ruddock.

    The public may have wanted it at one point but I'm sure that changed after Tyson lost.
    No. The clamour for this fight was after Tyson lost, hence the double bill where they fought together to test the water when Tyson fought Tillman and George fought Rodrigues.

    Again you accuse me of having no idea what was going on at the time, and you come out with stupid statements like Foreman's stock dropped after the Holyfield fight.

    Foreman was a huge underdog, and large sections of the media thought he was a joke and would be bludgeoned within three rounds by Holyfield. The fact that he went twelve rounds and rocked Holyfield on several occasions and remained competitive shocked almost everyone, including me, and his stock rose considerably in defeat

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    Default Re: George Forman VS David Tua + Tyson VS Tua + Tyson VS Forman + Tyson VS Vitali

    Tua vs Foreman - I'll take Tua. Obviously big George can bang but I just think Tua would do much better on the inside.
    Tua vs Foreman POST retirement - I'll take Big George. He really developed a great jab in his comeback.

    Tua vs Tyson - Tyson all the way. Tyson was superior to Tua in every way imaginable, except perhaps chin, but Tyson had an iron chin anyway so I don't think that matters.

    Tyson vs Foreman - Tyson all the way. Big George could bang but Tyson would just be MUCH too fast for him. I think Big George would go down Ron Lyle-style, but not get up.

    Tyson vs Vitali - I'd lean towards Vitali. I think Vitali had the toughness to withstand the occasional Tyson bomb, and the skill, movement and reach to keep Tyson at bay and off balance for most of the fight.
    Last edited by Beanflicker; 01-29-2013 at 02:46 PM.

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    Default Re: George Forman VS David Tua + Tyson VS Tua + Tyson VS Forman + Tyson VS Vitali

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthepen View Post
    Foreman was a huge underdog, and large sections of the media thought he was a joke and would be bludgeoned within three rounds by Holyfield. The fact that he went twelve rounds and rocked Holyfield on several occasions and remained competitive shocked almost everyone, including me, and his stock rose considerably in defeat
    This is true.

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