Tua VS Smokin Joe Fraizier battle of the left hooks, who wins and how?

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Tua was a powerful hitter, but he never actually won anything much and lost most of his biggest fights.

He was majorly avoided for one thing! Holy. Tyson. etc would have been very interesting. I have a suspicion had Frazier fought SHW Lewis he would have been brutalised! Tua came in 20lbs overweight and still had him in retreat mode for 12 rounds! And actually a lot of ppl thought he nicked the Ike fight and IB was a huge man and a huge huge puncher. The only person comparable to Tua that Frazier fought was GF and he was violently schooled. And even Foreman did not have he explosiveness that Tua had nor was he able to generate the leverage that Tua would put on his punches!

Frazier fought no one comparable to Tua (Tua on the other hand proved himself against Ike in a war!) All evidence points to Frazier struggling with the power of Tua as evidenced by the Bonavena and Foreman fights. Ali is not comparable at all to Tua and should not be used when speculating on how Joe would handle him. Ali struggled with a lot of fighters not just Joe. By rights Cooper and Young should have a W over him but skullduggery and bad officiating dictated otherwise. Such is boxing...

Norton arguably beat him 3 times and Norton was brutalised by a 185lb LHW. Tua did not fight Ali! It does not mean Frazier has an automatic pass to beat him because he did! Silly argument.

Yep, exactly the point I was going to post. Rahman, Ruiz and Maskaev are all solid wins, but he never really did anything or beat anybody, for me to put in the same league as a man that held his own for 4o or so rounds against Muhammad Ali

So did Norton! And held his own or not Frazier lost 2 of the fights. Jimmy young probably beat Ali and Norton and we all know what he did to Foreman! Should we not speculate on how he would do vs Tua too? Just because those few fighters fought great fights between themselves in the 70's does not mean they would beat anyone before or since! Ppl need top get over this thinking they are unbeatable crap!

I think if anything Frazier gets severlely overrated on behalf of being Ali's nemesis, he didn't really beat anyone else better than David Tua for my money

Agreed.

Who has Tua beat? He was getting a boxing lesson from Rahman for Christ's sake before he landed, and was outboxed to a draw in the rematch by an enormously fat Rahman who hadn't trained. Ike outworked him, Byrd and Lewis embarrassed him. I see nothing of note on his record.

Who has Frazier beat even remotely comparable to Tua? He only beat featherfisted non-tryer Bugner by a single point! Rahman would have kayoed Bugner....

Fraziers chin was bad man.....come on admit it! He wasn't a skilled technician to negate that fact either he only knew one mode of fighting! Any point's lead Frazier built up would be negated by the amount of tmes Tua dropped him....but i don't buy a Frazier points win either! See the Ike fight.