Chuck Wepner's knockdown of Muhammad Ali 1975

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

R u kdding mate--- he even inspired Stallone.

So did Alexander Miroshnichenko who stopped lennox lewis and riddick bowe in the Ams. He was the inspiration for Drago...

Shall we discuss him too then?

fine by me. you start as you have brought him up.

Captured the world title twice. Nice overview here:.

Soviet Legends: The Story of Alexander �Miron� Miroshnichenko

Can we discuss Igor Vysotsky too? Beat Terofilio Stevenson twice and a host of great americans like Tony Tubbs, Mitch Green, Greg Page etc!

Nice overview here:.

SOVIET LEGENDS: Igor Vysotsky - The man who had Teofilo Stevenson�s number!� ESB EXCLUSIVE Interview!

[AdamGB]

How many tests did Shane Mosely fail?

He must have been clean.

[TysonBomb]

Vitali as booted out of the Olympics because he tested positive.


Boxing: Klitschko admits steroid abuse - Telegraph

You keep using retarded reasoning like its excused because he was using them to nurse and injury. The fact is that he took them, tested positive, and admitted to all of this. He is a steroid cheat. And yest, he tested positive for them in BOXING, not "kickboxing." Typical brainless klittard excuse ... it wasn't boxing it was kickboxing hurr durr.

And Wach was also on them ... steroid abuse is most frequent amongst Russian and other Eastern Euros, especially in boxing.

Wlad is probably on anabolics, EPO, HGH etc. .... look at how his body changed from when he first started out. From 220 lbs to 250 lbs with a very noted change in muscle tone and mass.

Funny that you mention guys like Tubbs and Tyson ... obese Tony Tubbs used anabolics?? LOL. Tyson was huge ever since he was like 14 or 15 ... his body never really changed like Wlad's and he didn't even lift weights when he was in his prime years, thats not what the track record of a steroid abuser looks like. Tyson was all natural, we can't say that about Vitali and Wladimir is also a questionable case. But we can confirm that Vitali was a steroid cheating fraud.

Must feel like a "kick in the thigh" to you knowing that your hero is nothing but a fraud

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Vitali as booted out of the Olympics because he tested positive.

Your source for VK testing positive in professional day boxing please? Also note testing is light years ahead of what it was in the 80's and 90's when Tyson operated ....

That's why these doping cases are being exposed more & more. And Americans are top of the tree in that regard.

U also labelled WK a doper now please give me the source/proof?

P.S if its kickboxing GIFS u want cupcake then here:

[TysonBomb]

So why did Vittles claim he was going to KO Haye but now its all smooth DUCKING after he witnessed this



Oh wait! Now he wants to retire

LOL

And you're a complete moron .. I posted the link where he tested positive and was kicked off. Even after he admits it himself you still want to deny it like a moronic, pathetic fanboy

Careful, you're holding your hero down by latching onto his nuts.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

And you're a complete moron ..

Say's the man who compared 3 time world champ VK to non-title winning kirk johnson punching bag Lou Savarese, gives proof of a bad chin with a kickboxing match and mixes up the word 'Flawed' with 'Floored' and explain's it away as a typo! Plantpot.

I posted the link where he tested positive and was kicked off. Even after he admits it himself

You lost any credibility the moment u started resorting to personal attacks. VK was prescribed a drug for a kickboxing injury by a doctor for a kickboxing incident 20 years ago, now give me the link that states VK and WK have tested positive in pro-boxing? The link u posted is irrelevant and was for an injury in another sport he has freely admitted it, pro boxing nowadays has rigid testing and he has always tested clean. VK is a clean HW.

Careful, you're holding your hero down by latching onto his nuts.

No one cares about Haye or Chisora, one blamed his toe the other should be sectioned. They both got beat by K2 now deal with it! You are a terrible debater with even worse logic. My taxes pay for u....LOL.

Cooney KO Norton in 1. Holmes SD Norton. Cooney KO Holmes. Haye couldn't even KO the weaker chinned one...Chisora couldn't even outbox the 42 year old one who was operating with one arm!

[AdamGB]

No response?...

[AdamGB]

And you're a complete moron ..

Say's the man who compared 3 time world champ VK to non-title winning kirk johnson punching bag Lou Savarese, gives proof of a bad chin with a kickboxing match and mixes up the word 'Flawed' with 'Floored' and explain's it away as a typo! Plantpot.

I posted the link where he tested positive and was kicked off. Even after he admits it himself

You lost any credibility the moment u started resorting to personal attacks. VK was prescribed a drug for a kickboxing injury by a doctor for a kickboxing incident 20 years ago, now give me the link that states VK and WK have tested positive in pro-boxing? The link u posted is irrelevant and was for an injury in another sport he has freely admitted it, pro boxing nowadays has rigid testing and he has always tested clean. VK is a clean HW

How many times?! - Shane Mosely never failed a test, Holyfield didn't either. Pro or Amature.

They're both clean? Right?

Vitali HAS, no matter which way you spin it... Yet you dismiss his failed test, happily buy the bullshit story that he gives and then go on to post an ancient interviews about Evander Holyfield knowing a guy who heard a story about Tyson taking PEDs and claim that it is 'worth a read'.

Yeah... I think when it comes down to speculating over if a fighter is clean - some annecdotal story has much more credibility to it than a failed drug test in a fighter's history does.

Also, if you're going to get on your high horse over another posters grammar then you should probably stop saying 'u' all the time like some 'txtspkn' tweenage girl?

When you have to quibble over whether a mistake was a typo or a Freudian slip then it just shows us hiw weak your argument is...

Desperate for points much?

[AdamGB]

Vitali as booted out of the Olympics because he tested positive.

Your source for VK testing positive in professional day boxing please? Also note testing is light years ahead of what it was in the 80's and 90's when Tyson operated ....

That's why these doping cases are being exposed more & more. And Americans are top of the tree in that regard.

U also labelled WK a doper now please give me the source/proof?

P.S if its kickboxing GIFS u want cupcake then here:

Seriously?!?!
Vitali admitted even to it.

Don't give me that 'tests are more advanced' shit. There is more money in making PEDs than in selling them, the guys making them are always a step ahead of the testers and boxing's tests are pathetic...

More people get caught because more people are using. Simple.

As for him testing positive as a pro... He hasn't... Neither did admitted pro PED user SHANE MOSELY (in the noughties, with your so called 'advanced testing')... Holyfield never failed a test either and neither did Tyson. Infact out of Shane Mosely (admitted cheat) Evander Holyfield ('evan fields'), Mike Tyson ('I know a guy who knows a guy who says a guy says he takes steroids') and Vitali 'to treat an injury' Klitschko... The only person to fail a test, amature OR pro... Is VITALI.

Actually I lie, Tyson did fail a test, for WEED.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

How many tests did Shane Mosely fail?

He must have been clean.

Mosley admits he unknowingly took BALCO steroids - boxing - ESPN

Mosley admits he unknowingly (LOL) took BALCO steroids. Well documented. Failed zero tests but admitted to taking them.

America is rife with it. And im still a better popster than u.

[AdamGB]

And im still a better popster than u.

Starting a sentence with a conjunction, not capitalising 'I', missing the apostrophe in 'im' and still saying 'u'.

Following your lead I should be saying how stupid you are and that 'my tax pays for you', but I'll give the the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were being ironic in some vague way?

(I'll let 'popster' slide as I'm guessing it's either a typo or something that weird people say. Unless you're a pop musician?).

[brocktonblockbust]

thats nothing, he once wrote "He say's...."

rule: only use the apostrophe for a possessive or a contraction such as he is=he's

SAY'S just doesnt mean anything.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

And im still a better popster than u.

Starting a sentence with a conjunction, not capitalising 'I', missing the apostrophe in 'im' and still saying 'u'.

Following your lead I should be saying how stupid you are and that 'my tax pays for you', but I'll give the the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were being ironic in some vague way?

(I'll let 'popster' slide as I'm guessing it's either a typo or something that weird people say. Unless you're a pop musician?).

Thank you.To respond to that tirade would be to invite more drama. I like drama.

Adam i have long since learnt that any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself (mine included). It should not be too hard to find an example of your own faux pas. Excessive usage of the word 'the' stand's out! Fail. LOL.

Im glad you've set aside this special time for us both though. What are u trying to do score points?Grammar nazi!

[AdamGB]

My grammar doesn't need to be perfect... You're the one who originally brought grammar in to the discussion, not me.

Can I point out your hypocrisy with a typo present? I'd say yes.

I'm happy for you that I made that typo though (and probably your day), as it's all you seem to have been able to come back with (nothing relevant to anything remotely topical )... Your heart must have jumped when you saw it!

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

My grammar doesn't need to be perfect... You're the one who originally brought grammar in to the discussion, not me.

Can I point out your hypocrisy with a typo present? I'd say yes.

I'm happy for you that I made that typo though (and probably your day), as it's all you seem to have been able to come back with (nothing relevant to anything remotely topical )... Your heart must have jumped when you saw it!

Did i bring grammar ino the discusson with u? Or did u butt in? You got baited. Sarcasm escapes u too i see. Can we have more of your outrage over the slur on Tyson's character? That part was funny...

Spellcheck please.