If Tyson and Holyfield fought today...

[tysonesque]

I think that Evander just had Tyson's number; he had the chin to take the shots that would land and he had the ring generalship and movement to frustrate him over the course of time. Of course, nobody wants that fight to happen today, Holyfield is not even a shadow of what he used to be (and some people think that he has Parkinson or some kind of dementia beginning) and Tyson seems to have found back some kind of peace of mind, finally. You just don't want to aggravate nothing about that.

Holyfield roided, HGHed, and headbutted his way to "two victories"

The only time I ever saw Mike visibly hurt were from the butts ... I know Mike isn't the cleanest fighter ever but the stuff he would do was minor ... he wasn't changing the outcome of the fight like Holyfield was ... Holyfield was literally aiming to hit Tyson with his head like a battering ram.

That headbutting nonsense wouldn't work on the younger Mike who would had impeccable defense and supreme head movement. So there goes Holyfields "wins" over Iron Mike.

Jeez, even as a fellow Tyson fan I'm not buying that.

What Mike did in the second fight was pathetic and there was no excuse for it. Let's not pretend Mike wasn't a dirty fighter either. Even at his peak he regularly used elbows and frequently hit people when they were down.

Mike lost both fights to Holyfield because he was past his best and pretty well shot. By the time he went in against Holyfield he was living off his past reputation and could only put up a serious fight for 4 or 5 rounds against top opposition. Unlike others, Holyfield wasn't afraid of him and gave as good as he got and Mike ran out of gas and ideas pretty quickly.

Tyson's only convincing performance after his release from prison was against Bruno and that's because Bruno was made to measure for him. In every other fight he looked pretty terrible. His performance against Mathis jr was a joke.

Had they fought when Mike was at his peak it would be a different story, but Holyfield still gives him one hell of a fight no matter what.

[VictorCharlie]

Don't want to watch either fight ever again but Evander wins this fight at any point of either's career.