Quote Originally Posted by Samson3000
I may get bashed for this, but this is my honest opinion. I think Jake LaMotta is vastly overrated, especially among fans on this board. I'd be willing to bet that if you took any of the great, well rounded fighters of the past 20 years, no matter what weight class, and hypothetically matched them up in 5 p4p fights with Ray Robinson, ALL of them would win at least once. LaMotta's one win over Robinson is far from proving he's on Ray's level. If he won 2 out of 5, maybe, but when you fight a guy 5 times and he beats you 4 times, you basically got owned. His one win and of course 'Raging Bull' gives him unworthy status as some legend. He was a real good fighter and tough as nails, but Graziano would tear his azz up.


cc for telling the truth.............
no question, the guy was a flat out WARRIOR but being an all time great takes more than guts and heart (holyfield comes to mind)

i completely agree with your points on the movie, and beating robinson once out of five times.
dont get me wrong, imo he was without a doubt great, but graziano smokes him (as would MANY great middleweights)