Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013

[AdamGB]

A guy that's never been knocked out and has hit the floor once in 20 fights, for about 1 second, has a "glass jaw?"

Amazing what people see when they dislike someone.

List 20 punchers he has fought.

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[Fenster]

A guy that's never been knocked out and has hit the floor once in 20 fights, for about 1 second, has a "glass jaw?"

Amazing what people see when they dislike someone.

List 20 punchers he has fought.

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Having a "glass chin" is utterly irrelevant where "punchers" are concerned. Rock solid chins get cracked by big punchers. "Glass chins" get cracked by average punchers/lower tier fighters hence - "glass chin"

If you guys want to call a heavyweight that's never been ko'd, who's average opponent weighs over 220, as having a "glass chin" that's frankly quite ridiculous to me.

If Fury steps up in class and gets knocked out it still wouldn't mean he had a "glass chin," because the "class factor" has to be taken into account. So there is currently zero evidence Fury has a "glass chin." Fact.

[Fenster]

David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?

[Dark Lord Al]

David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?

Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.

[Tam Seddon]

David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?

Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.

The shot that floored Fury was a heavy right hand if I remember, most people who get caught especially by a heavyweight they can go down. Any fighter even if they don't have a good KO recording are still more than likely to land a hurtful shot in a fight. Fury did well to get up from it and knock him out. That fight was good experience for Fury.

[Fenster]

David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?

Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.

You're giving your opinion... and I'm giving my opinion that your definition of a "glass jaw" is wrong.

Remember Pele Reid? He was knocked out in 5 of his 6 losses and floored/wobbled several times. The best fighter he ever faced, Orlin Norris, sparked him in 60 seconds, his other KO losses came against non-punching Brit level fighters (including John McDermott who Fury fought twice without visiting the canvas), a journeyman and a novice. That's a "glass chin." When he got clipped he went out.

Dozens and dozens of fighters far better than Fury have been dropped. By your "glass chin" standard virtually every fighter in history has one. That's all i'm saying.

[Dark Lord Al]

David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?

Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.

You're giving your opinion... and I'm giving my opinion that your definition of a "glass jaw" is wrong.

Remember Pele Reid? He was knocked out in 5 of his 6 losses and floored/wobbled several times. The best fighter he ever faced, Orlin Norris, sparked him in 60 seconds, his other KO losses came against non-punching Brit level fighters (including John McDermott who Fury fought twice without visiting the canvas), a journeyman and a novice. That's a "glass chin." When he got clipped he went out.

Dozens and dozens of fighters far better than Fury have been dropped. By your "glass chin" standard virtually every fighter in history has one. That's all i'm saying.

Fair enough lets wait and see , however if you do sit ringside when Fury fights a world class puncher , wear safety goggles

[ross]

David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?

Exactly and at the point they fought, Fury was a 17 year old novice with less than 15 fights, Price was 22 and an experienced international and Fury still managed to put Price on the canvas

[ross]

Cassius Clay was dropped legitimately by 2 opponents in his first 19 fights. Both weighed well under 200lbs

[Dark Lord Al]

Cassius Clay was dropped legitimately by 2 opponents in his first 19 fights. Both weighed well under 200lbs

So the Pickey is the next Clay , WOW bold to say that .

Every fighter who is dropped is an all time great , wow

[Hulk]

Anyone who doesn't agree with Cain handling himself like a gentleman and professional here is a wanker them self.

And anyone who doesn't think Cain would absolutely smash Tyson Fury in an mma match is a moron.

Velasquez is far more skilled in his sport and overall than Fury is.

[Beanz]

Cassius Clay was dropped legitimately by 2 opponents in his first 19 fights. Both weighed well under 200lbs

So the Pickey is the next Clay , WOW bold to say that .

Every fighter who is dropped is an all time great , wow

No I think Ross is saying that even though Fury got lucky and caught Price in the amateurs that does not mean Price is especially vulnerable. He has been caught a few time since but with his monstrous punching power, good boxing skills, fitness and large stature he will probably go on to knock out Wlad and become heavyweight champion of the world, for a long time. At least thats what I think Ross means.:-P

[Beanflicker]

IMO Cain handled it the 100% correct way.

It would be an insult to the sport of MMA if a boxer, who isn't even a world champ, got a shot at the #1 MMA HW in the world just because he talked some shit on Twitter. Just like it would be disrespectful to the sport of boxing if some MMA guy talked some shit and got a shot at Wlad Klitschko or Floyd Mayweather.

As far as people who think Cain isn't a skilled fighter... please stick to what you know, because when you say things like that you look stupid to people who know better.

If you locked Cain and Fury in a room and told them to fight to the death, no rules street fight style, Cain wins. There's no question about it.

Whether you enjoy the sport of MMA or not, you have to acknowledge that the fighters are the real deal. You stubborn boxing nuts sound foolish when you dump on it. You're great great great (ect) grandfathers were probably talking shit about the first automobiles, sitting in their horse and buggies

[ross]

MMA's fans are so uninformed though that James Toney has one fight and its with the biggest name in MMA and he got paid twice as much as him!

If Cain moved over to boxing, there is no way that any broadcaster would be interested in buying a fit between him and Wlad. It wouldnt sell.

[mattboxingfan]

MMA's fans are so uninformed though that James Toney has one fight and its with the biggest name in MMA and he got paid twice as much as him!

If Cain moved over to boxing, there is no way that any broadcaster would be interested in buying a fit between him and Wlad. It wouldnt sell.

James Toney came to MMA and fought a 46 year old Randy Couture who was well out of his prime. There was no title on the line because he wasn't champion. Cain vs Wlad is hardly the equivalent of that fight.