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Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
yes Goldman probably would not have let Marciano lose. Seriously. Nobody's beatin' Charlie. Nobody. He once took a banana out from under Rocky's pillow while he was sleeping. Strict as fuck. Take a look at Rocky's conditioning. Can't see him ever gettin' tired or even needing a second wind. He'd just wait for so-and-so to need a 2nd wind, and he'd jump on 'im. Lights out. Everybody needs a 2nd wind---Ali used to tire in the 4th, then again in the 9th, he needed a 3rd wind to finish long fights. Do you think Marciano would let him coast then?
Rocky did get tired he was a human being.

Ali would take rests in safe positions such as not within punching distance, whilst he is holding and during the minute breaks.
yes thats correct. ad nauseum as well. Lets see those old timers get away with that ad infinitum neck grabbing and neck pushing-down crap that Ali employed to the umpteenth degree and always got away with it. Let him push down on Rocky's neck---first of all it would be so low compared to Ali's height that he may not be able to reach down that far!---2nd of all, even if Rocky's neck was pushed down and grabbed Ali-style, Rocky would just crouch down even lower during the pushing-down, and really blast Ali's appendix out. Ali cannot fight like that. He is not a toe-to-toe guy. If Ali ever tried to go toe-to-toe with anybody he would have gotten bombed out and he knew it---thus the profuse dancing and acrobatics and grabbing and neck pushing-down, etc. Kill the time for 2 minutes per round then win the round with some stinging flicking jabs and maybe a few slapping left hooks and if you get lucky and watch this for 7 or 8 rounds you might see Ali throw some sharp overhand straight right leads.

Take round 1 vs the Big Cat. If I were the ref, I'd a taken a point after over 1 minute and 30 seconds of dancing like a fucking clown without throwing a single punch.