Why is crime so high in England?

[IamInuit]

That Is right but just a little drive down the road they have almost no gun laws FACT

Those unrestricted guns end up in Chicago killing people Fact

Your second amendment rights written in an era of single shot muskets and a 5 minute reload does not supersede the right to life of 20 children. 95% of all your ubiquitous never ending mass shootings are done with assault rifles.

Criminals don't care about laws ergo gun control ONLY disarms law abiding citizens. Gun control doesn't solve anything, it only creates unarmed victims.

Of-course they don't. Why would they? Why are they so available to these criminals? There is already 1 gun per person pretty much or close to 300 million weapons and yet guns still fly off the shelves. How many do you need a billion? Perhaps arming those infants would have saved the day. Its like the mental illness argument. Well if mental illness is such a problem then how do these mental people freely access guns and 10 thousand rounds of ammunition at the click of a mouse? Like I said earlier slippery slope. Same with the cultural argument about being unemployed etc etc. Well if that's true then why again make guns so available to these down and out people?

Yes IN SPITE OF STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS

Haha oh that is precious Iaminuit #1 you couldn't be more wrong about mass killings being done with assault rifles and #2 so free speech should ONLY apply to actual spoken word & books then? And illegal search and seizure shouldn't apply to cars? Religions established POST 1789 (or1791 if you want to go by the date of ratification) don't qualify for the Freedom of Religion? Do you see where the logic is flawed there All the military had at the time were muskets too so I would suggest either the Armed Forces go back to muskets or you quit bitching about my right to bear arms.

Whats precious about it? Produce the evidence to dispute it. I can wait. While I wait I will go gather some.

Whats free speech have to do with anything I said? I said an individuals right to a weapon does not trump life itself.

I'm an atheist and could give two shits about any religious text.

I can bitch about your antiquated right to hold arms all I want. I live in a free country with free speech and where I don't have to be worried about being shot by my neighbour because my lawnmower blew a little grass onto his yard.

You paranoid Tea baggers and this devil from inside mentality are just fucked up and the writers of this constitution would have never imagined its application or use today They wouldn't have even considered people killing each other at this rate. I suppose the right then would apply to each other and not some Government who tried to rule with an iron fist

That is it for me on this topic. Lets just say we are diametrically opposed on this issue because I'm not going to get in some forum war with a guy I could probably shoot the shit with over a beer on the same topic w/o incident.

[mrbig1]

Does immigration have anything to do with the high crime rate in the UK?

[Andre]

Does immigration have anything to do with the high crime rate in the UK?

Where are you coming from? The wasps nest, or the stick thats about to belt it?

[mrbig1]

Does immigration have anything to do with the high crime rate in the UK?

Where are you coming from? The wasps nest, or the stick thats about to belt it?

Just looking for answers that's all.

[Master]

Does immigration have anything to do with the high crime rate in the UK?

Where are you coming from? The wasps nest, or the stick thats about to belt it?

Just looking for answers that's all.

Immigration is not to blame for the high crime rate, human nature is and what society classifies what is a crime.

[Beanz]

Does immigration have anything to do with the high crime rate in the UK?

Yes, because of our island mentality many immigrants have fled persecution only to become victims of crime here. Still the crime rate despite your seeming one man crusade to suggest otherwise is not High. Neither were the 1980's so different from today, rather than a Utopian vision of La La land where people in bowler hats took high tea and Said "what,what, I say old boy" a lot, there were race riots, football violence and the odd serial killer, much like any other western country.

[El Kabong]

That is it for me on this topic. Lets just say we are diametrically opposed on this issue because I'm not going to get in some forum war with a guy I could probably shoot the shit with over a beer on the same topic w/o incident.

The point I was trying to make is that you can't say that the Second Amendment ONLY applies to the way things were in the 18th Century without that being the case for the other Amendments. And yes I would be much more friendly in person, I'd split a pitcher of Moosehead or Molsen or whatever canuck beer you fancy with you anytime.

[VictorCharlie]

This has gotten entirely too civil....From my COLD DEAD HANDS BITCHES!!!!

[Gandalf]

It is a daft notion to think that the UK doesn't have serious crime issues. You can even be a native Englishman and come back for a holiday and drive in a friends car to a garage for a fill up and have several lunatics invite you for a fight on the other side of the road. That simply isn't normal behaviour beyond England. It isn't all about crime as that is only what gets put in the books. The UK is a horribly primitive and savage place and a prime example of how modern capitalism doesn't work. These kids causing problems should have had parents looking after them and instead they either have both parents working or else have a slag Mum who kicked them out because they were annoying and no Dad. Either way, the result is a weirdo hanging out on walls outside a petrol station asking strangers for a fight. That is real, that exists out there.

It has nothing to do with guns though. Guns would simply increase the possibility of me being killed by odd children who hang outside petrol stations.

[Beanz]

It is a daft notion to think that the UK doesn't have serious crime issues. You can even be a native Englishman and come back for a holiday and drive in a friends car to a garage for a fill up and have several lunatics invite you for a fight on the other side of the road. That simply isn't normal behaviour beyond England. It isn't all about crime as that is only what gets put in the books. The UK is a horribly primitive and savage place and a prime example of how modern capitalism doesn't work. These kids causing problems should have had parents looking after them and instead they either have both parents working or else have a slag Mum who kicked them out because they were annoying and no Dad. Either way, the result is a weirdo hanging out on walls outside a petrol station asking strangers for a fight. That is real, that exists out there.

It has nothing to do with guns though. Guns would simply increase the possibility of me being killed by odd children who hang outside petrol stations.

That is the only cogent and convincing argument for allowing citizens to have guns in England I have ever heard. Bring it on. The sooner the better.