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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
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    One of the knocks I hear against Alvarez from the people backing Trout is he hasn't beaten a name fighter who was in his prime. I trying to figuere out what name fighter Trout has beaten that was still in his prime
    Cotto might not have been in his prime but he took the #1 fighter in the world to the brink in his fight prior to facing Trout!

    The Cotto that Trout fought is better than Lopez, Mosley, Cintron, Gomez, Rhodes, Ndou & Baldomir put together

    I don't see the point your trying to make!?
    Cotto was competitive against Mayweather. But the outcome was never in doubt. To say he took him to the brink is really stretching it. Actually it's just plain false. Jose Luis Castillo is the only fighter to push Mayeweather to the brink. Cotto just put up a fight. It was his last great effort. The Cotto that fought Trout would of been knocked out by Alvarez. Trout gets some credit for beating Cotto. But no need to go over board
    Come on cuz, maybe "The brink" was the wrong word... but Mayweather in no way had it easy!

    Floyd got hit cleanly in that fight than in many of his previous bouts, bar the Mosley right

    I'm pretty sure there were only a couple of rounds in it when I watched it

    Sure the Castillo fight is debatable, but that was the hardest Mayweather has had to work since Castillo

    The Cotto that lost to Trout probably still beats Alvarez...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
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    One of the knocks I hear against Alvarez from the people backing Trout is he hasn't beaten a name fighter who was in his prime. I trying to figuere out what name fighter Trout has beaten that was still in his prime
    Cotto might not have been in his prime but he took the #1 fighter in the world to the brink in his fight prior to facing Trout!

    The Cotto that Trout fought is better than Lopez, Mosley, Cintron, Gomez, Rhodes, Ndou & Baldomir put together

    I don't see the point your trying to make!?
    Cotto was competitive against Mayweather. But the outcome was never in doubt. To say he took him to the brink is really stretching it. Actually it's just plain false. Jose Luis Castillo is the only fighter to push Mayeweather to the brink. Cotto just put up a fight. It was his last great effort. The Cotto that fought Trout would of been knocked out by Alvarez. Trout gets some credit for beating Cotto. But no need to go over board
    Come on cuz, maybe "The brink" was the wrong word... but Mayweather in no way had it easy!

    Floyd got hit cleanly in that fight than in many of his previous bouts, bar the Mosley right

    I'm pretty sure there were only a couple of rounds in it when I watched it

    Sure the Castillo fight is debatable, but that was the hardest Mayweather has had to work since Castillo

    The Cotto that lost to Trout probably still beats Alvarez...
    The cotto that lost to trout probably beats Alvarez? What are you basing this on? Wow

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    I wanna jump in this little debate and clarify some things..

    First of all, Cotto never took floyd to the " brink ".. haha c'mon seriously. That's such an exaggeration..

    The thing is, Floyd fought down to Cotto's level and his style and pretty much fought in the pocket througout the fight yet Cotto still couldnt damage him..

    Just as Floyd did against Mosley, he fought Cotto's fight and still kicked ass!! That's what's so great about floyd.. He fought out of his comfort zone and he still toyed with cotto..

    The only fighter who took Floyd to the edge was none other than Castillo..

    What Cotto did was nowhere near what Castillo did and that was against a young Floyd..

    I have Puerto Rican buddies who always claim that nonsense and i always laugh hard..

    Floyd was never in any type of danger when he fought Cotto..In fact he was so comfortable, dude didnt view Cotto as any kind of threat that he decided to sit in the pockets which was so unlike him...

    Cotto didn't do nothing... OScar Delahoya was more effective against Floyd than Cotto ever was..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    I wanna jump in this little debate and clarify some things..

    First of all, Cotto never took floyd to the " brink ".. haha c'mon seriously. That's such an exaggeration..

    The thing is, Floyd fought down to Cotto's level and his style and pretty much fought in the pocket througout the fight yet Cotto still couldnt damage him..

    Just as Floyd did against Mosley, he fought Cotto's fight and still kicked ass!! That's what's so great about floyd.. He fought out of his comfort zone and he still toyed with cotto..

    The only fighter who took Floyd to the edge was none other than Castillo..

    What Cotto did was nowhere near what Castillo did and that was against a young Floyd..

    I have Puerto Rican buddies who always claim that nonsense and i always laugh hard..

    Floyd was never in any type of danger when he fought Cotto..In fact he was so comfortable, dude didnt view Cotto as any kind of threat that he decided to sit in the pockets which was so unlike him...

    Cotto didn't do nothing... OScar Delahoya was more effective against Floyd than Cotto ever was..


    Claiming Floyd fought "down to Cotto's level" is 10 times the exaggeration you claim the word "brink" is. Don't let your disdain of Cotto color your judgement. Most people who saw the fight know Cotto gave his toughest test in many years. Floyd fans and/or Cotto haters expected Floyd to just walk through Cotto. It didn't happen that way. Personally, I readily admitted to Cotto's defeat as the fight was concluding. I don't let bias color my judgement. And this "sitting in the pocket" analogy is just ridiculous. Been watching too much football (or listening to Teddy Atlas).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Claiming Floyd fought "down to Cotto's level" is 10 times the exaggeration you claim the word "brink" is. Don't let your disdain of Cotto color your judgement. Most people who saw the fight know Cotto gave his toughest test in many years. Floyd fans and/or Cotto haters expected Floyd to just walk through Cotto. It didn't happen that way. Personally, I readily admitted to Cotto's defeat as the fight was concluding. I don't let bias color my judgement. And this "sitting in the pocket" analogy is just ridiculous. Been watching too much football (or listening to Teddy Atlas).
    He totally fought down to Cotto's level to try to make a more exciting fight (like he mentioned). I love Cotto, but he's not (and never was) near Floyd's level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Claiming Floyd fought "down to Cotto's level" is 10 times the exaggeration you claim the word "brink" is. Don't let your disdain of Cotto color your judgement. Most people who saw the fight know Cotto gave his toughest test in many years. Floyd fans and/or Cotto haters expected Floyd to just walk through Cotto. It didn't happen that way. Personally, I readily admitted to Cotto's defeat as the fight was concluding. I don't let bias color my judgement. And this "sitting in the pocket" analogy is just ridiculous. Been watching too much football (or listening to Teddy Atlas).
    He totally fought down to Cotto's level to try to make a more exciting fight (like he mentioned). I love Cotto, but he's not (and never was) near Floyd's level.


    I hope you, Finito, and VD don't mind... if I'd rather hear it from the main source.





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    This fought down to Cotto's level is laughable

    I don't know many people that go to work & decide to have a tough day by choice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Claiming Floyd fought "down to Cotto's level" is 10 times the exaggeration you claim the word "brink" is. Don't let your disdain of Cotto color your judgement. Most people who saw the fight know Cotto gave his toughest test in many years. Floyd fans and/or Cotto haters expected Floyd to just walk through Cotto. It didn't happen that way. Personally, I readily admitted to Cotto's defeat as the fight was concluding. I don't let bias color my judgement. And this "sitting in the pocket" analogy is just ridiculous. Been watching too much football (or listening to Teddy Atlas).
    He totally fought down to Cotto's level to try to make a more exciting fight (like he mentioned). I love Cotto, but he's not (and never was) near Floyd's level.


    I hope you, Finito, and VD don't mind... if I'd rather hear it from the main source.




    I said the outcome of the fight was never in doubt. I never said Mayweather fought down to Cotto's level. Those are two different things, stupid.

    I had the fight 117-111 Mayweather. What you score it?

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    I thought De la Hoya was very competitive in the Mayweather fight and took him to "the brink" in the SD win for May. But then again I might be BIAS.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    I wanna jump in this little debate and clarify some things..

    First of all, Cotto never took floyd to the " brink ".. haha c'mon seriously. That's such an exaggeration..

    The thing is, Floyd fought down to Cotto's level and his style and pretty much fought in the pocket througout the fight yet Cotto still couldnt damage him..

    Just as Floyd did against Mosley, he fought Cotto's fight and still kicked ass!! That's what's so great about floyd.. He fought out of his comfort zone and he still toyed with cotto..

    The only fighter who took Floyd to the edge was none other than Castillo..

    What Cotto did was nowhere near what Castillo did and that was against a young Floyd..

    I have Puerto Rican buddies who always claim that nonsense and i always laugh hard..

    Floyd was never in any type of danger when he fought Cotto..In fact he was so comfortable, dude didnt view Cotto as any kind of threat that he decided to sit in the pockets which was so unlike him...

    Cotto didn't do nothing... OScar Delahoya was more effective against Floyd than Cotto ever was..

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    Trout's southpaw style will give Alvarez nightmares! He ain't never fought a significant southpaw.

    I also feel Trout is very good at creating distance, couple that with his jab & I see him frustrating Canelo & disrupting his combos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Trout's southpaw style will give Alvarez nightmares! He ain't never fought a significant southpaw.

    I also feel Trout is very good at creating distance, couple that with his jab & I see him frustrating Canelo & disrupting his combos
    I feel Saul will be too strong for Trout and walk through him. Canelo will win on points at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Trout's southpaw style will give Alvarez nightmares! He ain't never fought a significant southpaw.

    I also feel Trout is very good at creating distance, couple that with his jab & I see him frustrating Canelo & disrupting his combos
    I feel Saul will be too strong for Trout and walk through him. Canelo will win on points at least.
    Fair enough that's opinion

    But are the Canelo fans worried that he has never been tested against a decent southpaw?

    Cause Trout is all kinds of difficult...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Trout's southpaw style will give Alvarez nightmares! He ain't never fought a significant southpaw.

    I also feel Trout is very good at creating distance, couple that with his jab & I see him frustrating Canelo & disrupting his combos
    I feel Saul will be too strong for Trout and walk through him. Canelo will win on points at least.
    Trout is faced with a younger version of Cotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Trout's southpaw style will give Alvarez nightmares! He ain't never fought a significant southpaw.

    I also feel Trout is very good at creating distance, couple that with his jab & I see him frustrating Canelo & disrupting his combos
    I feel Saul will be too strong for Trout and walk through him. Canelo will win on points at least.
    I have a few issues with Canelo

    1. Goes to sleep in rounds for well over a minute
    2. Can be easily hit
    3. Though he cuts off the ring well enough, he can't really punch on the move
    4. Lacks a credible jab


    Of the four I listed I believe his lack of offensive output and lack of a good jab will get him spanked in the early rounds and he has to climb out of a big scoring hole later on in the fight just to break even. Also I really think he might have a stamina problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    One of the knocks I hear against Alvarez from the people backing Trout is he hasn't beaten a name fighter who was in his prime. I trying to figuere out what name fighter Trout has beaten that was still in his prime
    Cotto might not have been in his prime but he took the #1 fighter in the world to the brink in his fight prior to facing Trout!

    The Cotto that Trout fought is better than Lopez, Mosley, Cintron, Gomez, Rhodes, Ndou & Baldomir put together

    I don't see the point your trying to make!?
    Cotto was competitive against Mayweather. But the outcome was never in doubt. To say he took him to the brink is really stretching it. Actually it's just plain false. Jose Luis Castillo is the only fighter to push Mayeweather to the brink. Cotto just put up a fight. It was his last great effort. The Cotto that fought Trout would of been knocked out by Alvarez. Trout gets some credit for beating Cotto. But no need to go over board
    Come on cuz, maybe "The brink" was the wrong word... but Mayweather in no way had it easy!

    Floyd got hit cleanly in that fight than in many of his previous bouts, bar the Mosley right

    I'm pretty sure there were only a couple of rounds in it when I watched it

    Sure the Castillo fight is debatable, but that was the hardest Mayweather has had to work since Castillo

    The Cotto that lost to Trout probably still beats Alvarez...
    The cotto that lost to trout probably beats Alvarez? What are you basing this on? Wow
    Just showing how easy it is to say sh*t!

    There's a reason they fight the fights! No one knows for sure what will happen until they get in the ring...

    For the record Cotto would still be one of the best fighters Alvarez has fought & I'd give him a good shot at victory!



    Finito read my post, I said "brink" was probably the wrong word & explained what I meant

    Take the time to read the thread

    I just get annoyed with those that say Canelo will do this & that, but the fact is he ain't done jack! Sure he has definitely improved & grown as a fighter but he hasn't fought anyone decent yet.
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