Can Juanma Lopez beat Takashi Uchiyama?

[Galaxy]

Did VD really defend Margarito?

I can't say for sure but I'm sure he wouldn't have when plaster was found before the Mosley fight, Vd has more sense than that!

How did he defend Chavez Jr? For smoking weed? The guy lost anyway & in no way does that help your performance, plus he got a fine & a suspension I think, so if VD was defending the smoke I can understand, everyone has had a toke or 2 at some point. was it unprofessional? Sure but that's another issue

Just curious...

[TitoFan]

Yes, VD has defended Margarito. Or at least he hasn't criticized him like he likes to criticize P.R. fighters for much, much less. And the issue with JCC Jr. isn't just the weed. That's nothing. Junior has gotten suspended for banned substances related to his ridiculous weight gains after the weigh-ins. Just as much a cheater as those who use PEDs.

VD routinely uses the ol' double standard. His ridiculous claims labeling P.R. fighters as quitters conveniently ignore the worst Mexican quitting jobs of them all, like Oscar's quitting on his stool against the smaller Pacquaio.

He berates JuanMa for railing against the referee after the 2nd Salido fight.... but defends or refuses to acknowledge a scumbag like Rios, who routinely comes in overweight, to the detriment of boxing and his opponent.

I could ignore VD, given his cartoonish behavior and ridiculous, clownish comments. But I choose not to, because amazingly enough there are still a couple of people on here that still put some weight on some things the dickhead says.

He needs to know he doesn't have "carte blanche" to spout his racist comments against P.R. fighters, without getting some shit thrown back at his face.

[Galaxy]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

[FinitoElDinamita]

No sane person could defend Margo for what he tried to do against Mosley..

I think VD might have been misunderstood by some of you.. He knows what Margo did was disgraceful but he doesn't believe that Margo was plastered against Cotto as well..

Im on this boat. Margo got caught slippin and paid the price but that dont mean he did the same with Cotto when he divirgined him and made him submit on his knees. There is no evidence of that.

BUt the Ricans keep talking about this bullshit about how their man got cheated and all that yada instead of accepting defeat like men..

[Galaxy]

I feel personally Margarito may have used something in his gloves that 1st fight, but there is no proof so its irrelevant

Besides Cotto gave him a nice hiding in the return & pretty much retired Antonio, so I see no reason for Puerto Ricans worry...

[TitoFan]

I feel personally Margarito may have used something in his gloves that 1st fight, but there is no proof so its irrelevant

Besides Cotto gave him a nice hiding in the return & pretty much retired Antonio, so I see no reason for Puerto Ricans worry...

Yeah.... a fight the "unbiased" VD called "A Sad Day for Boxing" in a thread he immediately started.

So you'll forgive me if I don't subscribe to the "VD is a rational poster" party line.
To me, he's nothing but a racist, ignorant bullshitter.
And I'm forcing myself to be nice.

[Galaxy]

I feel personally Margarito may have used something in his gloves that 1st fight, but there is no proof so its irrelevant

Besides Cotto gave him a nice hiding in the return & pretty much retired Antonio, so I see no reason for Puerto Ricans worry...

Yeah.... a fight the "unbiased" VD called "A Sad Day for Boxing" in a thread he immediately started.

So you'll forgive me if I don't subscribe to the "VD is a rational poster" party line.
To me, he's nothing but a racist, ignorant bullshitter.
And I'm forcing myself to be nice.

No sure who said VD was a rational poster, wasn't me! He cracked me up when he posted Canelo stops Trout in the mid rounds... like that happens

I think he likes to get a rise outta those that take the bait

I'm waiting to see his responses before judging


Question:
@TitoFan do you agree that Lopez' out burst was ridiculous & Cotto quit vs Margarito?

[TitoFan]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

I think you're giving VD too much credit, but whatever. Sure... he'll come in here and lie about it... downplaying the shit he shovels. But I've been in enough exchanges with the dude to know what his mind is made of. And it's nothing good. He's got 20 times more detractors than supporters. But again... whatever.

[Galaxy]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

I think you're giving VD too much credit, but whatever. Sure... he'll come in here and lie about it... downplaying the shit he shovels. But I've been in enough exchanges with the dude to know what his mind is made of. And it's nothing good. He's got 20 times more detractors than supporters. But again... whatever.

So if Vd comes in here & says yeah Margarito was a chump for getting caught with plaster before facing Mosley & Chavez Jr is a cheater what more do you want

So what if he points out Lopez or Rios more than those of Mexican decent

As long as he is fair & acknowledges that it goes both way I don't see a problem

Lets see if he does

[TitoFan]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

I think you're giving VD too much credit, but whatever. Sure... he'll come in here and lie about it... downplaying the shit he shovels. But I've been in enough exchanges with the dude to know what his mind is made of. And it's nothing good. He's got 20 times more detractors than supporters. But again... whatever.

So if Vd comes in here & says yeah Margarito was a chump for getting caught with plaster before facing Mosley & Chavez Jr is a cheater what more do you want

So what if he points out Lopez or Rios more than those of Mexican decent

As long as he is fair & acknowledges that it goes both way I don't see a problem

Lets see if he does

I don't get it. You and VD are both 7-year posters. It's not like you haven't read his shit before. But hey whatever, man. Different strokes for different strokes. You feel VD is a fair, impartial, objective poster...... please continue doing so. I'm sure there's at least 2 other posters on here that feel the same way.

[Violent Demise]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

I think you're giving VD too much credit, but whatever. Sure... he'll come in here and lie about it... downplaying the shit he shovels. But I've been in enough exchanges with the dude to know what his mind is made of. And it's nothing good. He's got 20 times more detractors than supporters. But again... whatever.

So if Vd comes in here & says yeah Margarito was a chump for getting caught with plaster before facing Mosley & Chavez Jr is a cheater what more do you want

So what if he points out Lopez or Rios more than those of Mexican decent

As long as he is fair & acknowledges that it goes both way I don't see a problem

Lets see if he does

I said it many times before that Margarito deserved the blame for what happened in the Mosley fight. Because even though he didn't know what was happening the trainers actions are his responsibility. But that's not the issue here. The issue here is that Titofag wants to provide Cotto an excuse for getting his ass whipped and quitting against Margarito by saying Margarito cheated. Despite there being no proof of that other than Cotto acting like bitch and not taking the loss like a man. The bottom line is the Nevada commision checked Margarito's wraps before the fight and cleared them. Say what you want about the Nevada commision. But they have way more experience checking wraps than the California commision. Which is the one that checked them in the Mosley fight. But the fags lust for Cotto is so strong he can't accept it. It eats at him more than it does Cotto. Which is why this argument always comes up. But it's fine. He can spit all the nonsense he wants. Say all the little insults he wants. It doesn't matter to me. I consider him to be a joke of a poster who doesn't know the sport of boxing. There's a big difference between me and him. I post on a lot of the Mexican fighters threads. But you can find me posting on the UK fighter threads. The fighters from Japan threads. Russian fighters. All of them. You wanna talk Junior Flyweight or Strawweights? Fine. Yow wanna go back in time and talk Bob Foster or Gene Tunney? We can do that too. I'll even go into the future with you and talk about obscure prospects from Italy or Brazil if you want. I'm a boxing fan. I don't consider him a boxing fan. I consider him a Cotto fan. That's it. He's here for me to insult and laugh at. He's not here for me to talk boxing with. Cuz that's just not possible.

[TitoFan]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

I think you're giving VD too much credit, but whatever. Sure... he'll come in here and lie about it... downplaying the shit he shovels. But I've been in enough exchanges with the dude to know what his mind is made of. And it's nothing good. He's got 20 times more detractors than supporters. But again... whatever.

So if Vd comes in here & says yeah Margarito was a chump for getting caught with plaster before facing Mosley & Chavez Jr is a cheater what more do you want

So what if he points out Lopez or Rios more than those of Mexican decent

As long as he is fair & acknowledges that it goes both way I don't see a problem

Lets see if he does

I said it many times before that Margarito deserved the blame for what happened in the Mosley fight. Because even though he didn't know what was happening the trainers actions are his responsibility. But that's not the issue here. The issue here is that Titofag wants to provide Cotto an excuse for getting his ass whipped and quitting against Margarito by saying Margarito cheated. Despite there being no proof of that other than Cotto acting like bitch and not taking the loss like a man. The bottom line is the Nevada commision checked Margarito's wraps before the fight and cleared them. Say what you want about the Nevada commision. But they have way more experience checking wraps than the California commision. Which is the one that checked them in the Mosley fight. But the fags lust for Cotto is so strong he can't accept it. It eats at him more than it does Cotto. Which is why this argument always comes up. But it's fine. He can spit all the nonsense he wants. Say all the little insults he wants. It doesn't matter to me. I consider him to be a joke of a poster who doesn't know the sport of boxing. There's a big difference between me and him. I post on a lot of the Mexican fighters threads. But you can find me posting on the UK fighter threads. The fighters from Japan threads. Russian fighters. All of them. You wanna talk Junior Flyweight or Strawweights? Fine. Yow wanna go back in time and talk Bob Foster or Gene Tunney? We can do that too. I'll even go into the future with you and talk about obscure prospects from Italy or Brazil if you want. I'm a boxing fan. I don't consider him a boxing fan. I consider him a Cotto fan. That's it. He's here for me to insult and laugh at. He's not here for me to talk boxing with. Cuz that's just not possible.

Great speech.
You do any non-fiction as well?

[Galaxy]

I'm sure @Violent Demise would criticize Margarito for the plaster thing before the Mosley bout

I'm sure he also agree's Chavez Jr is a cheater for using Furosemide

Lets see what sort of man Vd is & just ask him


I think Lopez' comments were ridiculous & guys coming in over-weight is unprofessional

I think you're giving VD too much credit, but whatever. Sure... he'll come in here and lie about it... downplaying the shit he shovels. But I've been in enough exchanges with the dude to know what his mind is made of. And it's nothing good. He's got 20 times more detractors than supporters. But again... whatever.

So if Vd comes in here & says yeah Margarito was a chump for getting caught with plaster before facing Mosley & Chavez Jr is a cheater what more do you want

So what if he points out Lopez or Rios more than those of Mexican decent

As long as he is fair & acknowledges that it goes both way I don't see a problem

Lets see if he does

I said it many times before that Margarito deserved the blame for what happened in the Mosley fight. Because even though he didn't know what was happening the trainers actions are his responsibility. But that's not the issue here. The issue here is that Titofag wants to provide Cotto an excuse for getting his ass whipped and quitting against Margarito by saying Margarito cheated. Despite there being no proof of that other than Cotto acting like bitch and not taking the loss like a man. The bottom line is the Nevada commision checked Margarito's wraps before the fight and cleared them. Say what you want about the Nevada commision. But they have way more experience checking wraps than the California commision. Which is the one that checked them in the Mosley fight. But the fags lust for Cotto is so strong he can't accept it. It eats at him more than it does Cotto. Which is why this argument always comes up. But it's fine. He can spit all the nonsense he wants. Say all the little insults he wants. It doesn't matter to me. I consider him to be a joke of a poster who doesn't know the sport of boxing. There's a big difference between me and him. I post on a lot of the Mexican fighters threads. But you can find me posting on the UK fighter threads. The fighters from Japan threads. Russian fighters. All of them. You wanna talk Junior Flyweight or Strawweights? Fine. Yow wanna go back in time and talk Bob Foster or Gene Tunney? We can do that too. I'll even go into the future with you and talk about obscure prospects from Italy or Brazil if you want. I'm a boxing fan. I don't consider him a boxing fan. I consider him a Cotto fan. That's it. He's here for me to insult and laugh at. He's not here for me to talk boxing with. Cuz that's just not possible.

I know you are a fan of the sport, we have talked many times about fighters of the lower weights or different countries

I have already stated how I feel about Cotto/ Margarito 1, but as I remember Cotto never really said anything about the plaster up until the rematch? I could be wrong... I thought Cotto handled himself well after that defeat, he had his suspicions as many of us did, but he never came right out & accused Margarito up until the return

Either way Margarito's career will always have a question mark over it, whilst the HOF beckons for Cotto