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    Default Re: Jack Dempsey's Jolt

    I've practiced bare knuckle (pre MoQ/old English style) boxing and martial arts for the last 35 years.

    Yeah, I started at 10 and I'm a 45 year old old fuck now.... Errrrr at least I'm starting to kinda feel that way (still a teen upstairs in the head anyway

    Anyway, I recently got a piece of shit video camera and have just begun putting up video's on youtube.

    I'll make you a vid of what the falling step is, methods of doing it, and how it's to be applied.

    I've been planning on it, but I decided to start at the beginning, so so far, all I've put up are super basic stance video's....

    (BASICS HOWEVER ARE KEY AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE GOOD AND BE ABLE TO SERIOUSLY DELIVER BONE BREAKING/CRUNCHING/FUCKING CRUSHING POWER.... YOU, AND BY THAT I MEAN ANYONE, SHOULD WORK THE PISS OUT OF THE.... BASICS. THAT IS REALLY WHERE IT'S AT)

    But, I digress....

    I will make it concise.

    I will begin making it tomorrow 3/5/13

    I should have it up tomorow af/noon or on Thursday sometime.

    It will probably be spread out over several video's as I will not only go over Dempsey's version....

    But also I will go over B.Lee's version called the "Straight Lead"... Which is essentially the same, but slightly different.

    Both methods were based on works by Jim Driscoll "The straight left and how to cultivate it"....

    As well as works by the legendary fencer Aldo Nadi.

    (Western boxing IS after all based on fencing and so is Dempsey's/Lee's straight leads)

    Both methods take PRACTICE and many will be discouraged at first.

    Those who have learned the methods and stuck with them until the daylight began to reveal itself know now why they did.....

    Those who never stuck with it and failed.... Can only dream.

    Cheers!... I'll see what I can do.

    Jake.

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    Default Re: Jack Dempsey's Jolt

    Quote Originally Posted by JakobM View Post
    I've practiced bare knuckle (pre MoQ/old English style) boxing and martial arts for the last 35 years.

    Yeah, I started at 10 and I'm a 45 year old old fuck now.... Errrrr at least I'm starting to kinda feel that way (still a teen upstairs in the head anyway

    Anyway, I recently got a piece of shit video camera and have just begun putting up video's on youtube.

    I'll make you a vid of what the falling step is, methods of doing it, and how it's to be applied.

    I've been planning on it, but I decided to start at the beginning, so so far, all I've put up are super basic stance video's....

    (BASICS HOWEVER ARE KEY AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE GOOD AND BE ABLE TO SERIOUSLY DELIVER BONE BREAKING/CRUNCHING/FUCKING CRUSHING POWER.... YOU, AND BY THAT I MEAN ANYONE, SHOULD WORK THE PISS OUT OF THE.... BASICS. THAT IS REALLY WHERE IT'S AT)

    But, I digress....

    I will make it concise.

    I will begin making it tomorrow 3/5/13

    I should have it up tomorow af/noon or on Thursday sometime.

    It will probably be spread out over several video's as I will not only go over Dempsey's version....

    But also I will go over B.Lee's version called the "Straight Lead"... Which is essentially the same, but slightly different.

    Both methods were based on works by Jim Driscoll "The straight left and how to cultivate it"....

    As well as works by the legendary fencer Aldo Nadi.

    (Western boxing IS after all based on fencing and so is Dempsey's/Lee's straight leads)

    Both methods take PRACTICE and many will be discouraged at first.

    Those who have learned the methods and stuck with them until the daylight began to reveal itself know now why they did.....

    Those who never stuck with it and failed.... Can only dream.

    Cheers!... I'll see what I can do.

    Jake.

    Thanks for your reply! Looking forward to your contribution!

    I really want to understand this technique, so to avoid misunderstanding, here is roughly how I used to practice the move over the last 3-4 months:



    Uploaded with ImageShack.us

    Unfortunately, I did not have a chance to apply against a heavy bag yet, but I tried once on a wooden plate - it got broken pretty easily
    Last edited by SugarBoxing; 03-16-2013 at 04:48 PM.

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    Default Re: Jack Dempsey's Jolt

    In 1964, I trained under a man named Carmen Cursin. He was not only a friend of Jack Dempsey, but a trainer and sparing partner. He was among the last of the bare knuckle fighters also. I remember him talking about Jack Dempsey and the 'splinter punch'. the way he described it was that the entinre knockout punch depended on timing. Jack would set himself up directly in front of his opponent quickly, and then step forward driving his entire body behind a straight punch with the thumb upward. the energy behind the punch would slam through a denfense and would be aimed for the chin, lower jaw, --a knockout. I never tried it, but many of us have talked about it and keep saying we need to find some old film of his knockouts and study it (which we have not done). Personally, I think it is a fluke style that only Dempsey could pull off...much like Ali or Tysons style. You can try to copy it , but you can't duplicate it because it was unique to that fighter only...his timing,his insight, his movement, his internal 'radar'. Just my observation.

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    Default Re: Jack Dempsey's Jolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lion View Post
    In 1964, I trained under a man named Carmen Cursin. He was not only a friend of Jack Dempsey, but a trainer and sparing partner. He was among the last of the bare knuckle fighters also. I remember him talking about Jack Dempsey and the 'splinter punch'. the way he described it was that the entinre knockout punch depended on timing. Jack would set himself up directly in front of his opponent quickly, and then step forward driving his entire body behind a straight punch with the thumb upward. the energy behind the punch would slam through a denfense and would be aimed for the chin, lower jaw, --a knockout. I never tried it, but many of us have talked about it and keep saying we need to find some old film of his knockouts and study it (which we have not done). Personally, I think it is a fluke style that only Dempsey could pull off...much like Ali or Tysons style. You can try to copy it , but you can't duplicate it because it was unique to that fighter only...his timing,his insight, his movement, his internal 'radar'. Just my observation.
    Ok, thanks for feedback!

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