Barker,Macklin,Murray or Lee

**Fenster** · 03-05-2013 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

it becomes almost odd that there have been no-big UK domestic match-ups at middleweight.

Actually it's not odd it's par for the course in Britain. Different promoters and TV stations.

About ten years ago, in a very similar situation, Britian had a bunch of decent lightmiddle's - Wayne Alexander, Richard Williams, Steve Roberts, Anthony Farnell, Takaloo. They all had different titles (Brit/Euro/shitty "world" titles) and because of their promoter/managers all just squabbled on TV about who was no.1, instead of actually fighting (some did eventually fight after they were "exposed"). In the end they all got beat and a bunch of great fights were lost. Tragic.

El Kabong · 03-05-2013 04:17 PM

Now that Andy Lee is working with that no talent butt pirate Adam Booth his career is over. It's a shame he never lived up to his potential, he could have been somebody. I think his poor footwork hurt his work with Manny Steward (may he R.I.P.), because if he could have moved better his defense would not have been as easily thwarted as it was.

**Fenster** · 03-05-2013 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Now that Andy Lee is working with that no talent butt pirate Adam Booth his career is over. It's a shame he never lived up to his potential, he could have been somebody. I think his poor footwork hurt his work with Manny Steward (may he R.I.P.), because if he could have moved better his defense would not have been as easily thwarted as it was.

Adam Booth's wins to loss ratio must be outstanding.

He currently trains Haye, Groves and Lee. Haye has lost 2 in 28, Groves is 16-0 and Lee is 1-0.

**Rantcatrat** · 03-05-2013 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Now that Andy Lee is working with that no talent butt pirate Adam Booth his career is over. It's a shame he never lived up to his potential, he could have been somebody. I think his poor footwork hurt his work with Manny Steward (may he R.I.P.), because if he could have moved better his defense would not have been as easily thwarted as it was.

Adam Booth's wins to loss ratio must be outstanding.

He currently trains Haye, Groves and Lee. Haye has lost 2 in 28, Groves is 16-0 and Lee is 1-0.

He also trained Selcuk Aydin for his fight against Soto-Karass. It didn't turn out too well.

Lee's wins over Vera and McEwan aren't bad wins. They are probably better than any win Barker or Murray has on their resume. Am I wrong on that one?

Frankly, I think the time is ripe for a fight between any of them, unless they can secure title fights against other world champions.

**armyash** · 03-05-2013 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

it becomes almost odd that there have been no-big UK domestic match-ups at middleweight.

Actually it's not odd it's par for the course in Britain. Different promoters and TV stations.

About ten years ago, in a very similar situation, Britian had a bunch of decent lightmiddle's - Wayne Alexander, Richard Williams, Steve Roberts, Anthony Farnell, Takaloo. They all had different titles (Brit/Euro/shitty "world" titles) and because of their promoter/managers all just squabbled on TV about who was no.1, instead of actually fighting (some did eventually fight after they were "exposed"). In the end they all got beat and a bunch of great fights were lost. Tragic.

As I was reading this thread and planning my reply, I came across your post and it is exactly what I was going to say. I remember reading similar threads and aricles back then. A lot of WBU's and IBO's floating around back then. I remember they were talking about a tournament at one time. A lot of these guys must have missed out on some good paydays.

**Beanz** · 03-06-2013 05:34 PM

Barker says he wants the domestic fights to happen, but even he is saying AFTER a world title belt. These are big enough fights in themselves to warrant each boxers attention and would help improve their rankings, exposure and chance of getting those world title shots.

Macklin and Murray fights must happen says Barker (From Times Series)

**IamInuit** · 03-06-2013 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Barker says he wants the domestic fights to happen, but even he is saying AFTER a world title belt. These are big enough fights in themselves to warrant each boxers attention and would help improve their rankings, exposure and chance of getting those world title shots.

Macklin and Murray fights must happen says Barker (From Times Series)

The players involved should do a Don King type mid tourney and sort it out. No four rounders.