Deontay Wilder?

[El Kabong]

27 pro fights and still cutting his teeth is still a lot, though.
He's dangerously approaching Cesar Chavez territory.

If he had the success of Chavez as an American heavyweight would people be all that disappointed in him? He's big, he's fun to watch fight, and he's American....that's what people SAY is missing in the division. The people who always see the division as something it never used to be, say that's what's missing.

I'm referring mostly to Junior.
Junior fought bums for the first 40 fights of his career.
So Wilder would still get a little slack..... but not much.

Personally, I'm rooting for Wilder to become that challenger Wlad has never had.

I assumed you were talking about Junior. Wilder won't be ready to really challenge Wlad until Wlad is retired. Wlad did say "Deontay Wilder has the fastest hands I've seen for a heavyweight in sparring" so that has to count for something.

[TitoFan]

27 pro fights and still cutting his teeth is still a lot, though.
He's dangerously approaching Cesar Chavez territory.

If he had the success of Chavez as an American heavyweight would people be all that disappointed in him? He's big, he's fun to watch fight, and he's American....that's what people SAY is missing in the division. The people who always see the division as something it never used to be, say that's what's missing.

I'm referring mostly to Junior.
Junior fought bums for the first 40 fights of his career.
So Wilder would still get a little slack..... but not much.

Personally, I'm rooting for Wilder to become that challenger Wlad has never had.

I assumed you were talking about Junior. Wilder won't be ready to really challenge Wlad until Wlad is retired. Wlad did say "Deontay Wilder has the fastest hands I've seen for a heavyweight in sparring" so that has to count for something.

Unfortunately, I think you're right about Wilder not being ready. He's too raw to be ready anytime soon. I just think you were overstating Junior's success. Change his last name, and he'd be just another journeyman, feasting on inferior and undersized opposition. Wilder has no such advantage, but he's turning heads on his own merit. He just needs an upgrade in opponents sooner rather than later.

[El Kabong]

Unfortunately, I think you're right about Wilder not being ready. He's too raw to be ready anytime soon. I just think you were overstating Junior's success. Change his last name, and he'd be just another journeyman, feasting on inferior and undersized opposition. Wilder has no such advantage, but he's turning heads on his own merit. He just needs an upgrade in opponents sooner rather than later.

Wilder also needs to fill out his frame, he's 6'7 and was 228 his last bout. I want to see him stretched the distance vs someone good or KO someone who has been prooven to have a rock solid chin. He's got a lot of "classes to take" (how he takes a punch, how's his defense, how's his stamina, can he get off the deck and win, can he KO late when he has to, does his power carry in the later rounds, does he have a "plan B", etc) as it were to show he's ready for the big boys. Moving him up too quickly could result in him being the next Michael Grant.

Swap out the name Chavez for American Heavyweight and is there really a difference?

[Vendettos]

Unfortunately, I think you're right about Wilder not being ready. He's too raw to be ready anytime soon. I just think you were overstating Junior's success. Change his last name, and he'd be just another journeyman, feasting on inferior and undersized opposition. Wilder has no such advantage, but he's turning heads on his own merit. He just needs an upgrade in opponents sooner rather than later.

Wilder also needs to fill out his frame, he's 6'7 and was 228 his last bout. I want to see him stretched the distance vs someone good or KO someone who has been prooven to have a rock solid chin. He's got a lot of "classes to take" (how he takes a punch, how's his defense, how's his stamina, can he get off the deck and win, can he KO late when he has to, does his power carry in the later rounds, does he have a "plan B", etc) as it were to show he's ready for the big boys. Moving him up too quickly could result in him being the next Michael Grant.

Swap out the name Chavez for American Heavyweight and is there really a difference?

People knock Grant a lot but 48-4-0 isn't bad.

As far as wilder goes, I've watched a lot of his fights recently. Wlad, Haye or Vitali stop everybody he's fought and faster.

He is very unpolished. He'll never step up.

[Vendettos]

Scott: Deontay Wilder is ready now

[jon09]

He needs to fight a couple of live bodies and then challenge the WBA champion. Manuel Charr, Kevin Johnson or even the faded Frans Botha would be something.