Osama bin Laden's son-in-law arrested

**VictorCharlie** · 03-09-2013 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dia bando

Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

Andre didn't say "capable" he said "wished". As Miles is so prone to bring up I have had very up close and personal experiences with the taking of human life and I don't flippantly talk about my personal experiences or in the abstract. I'm not falling for anything. This is an internet forum and I don't know any of you in real life. As far as I'm concerned one's forum persona is who they.

Look Victor you must remember, a lot of what's said by Miles is done for YOU to react and you DO,
I am not sticking up for Miles, but he's winding you like a clock, it's what he does.
My late Father was in Burma 2and WW, and he never talked about taking life in a flippant manner,
and YOU never have. Take it as it is bull shit or what ever, he is winding you up I no plenty just
like Miles.

You can think what you want and make excuses for his behavior but the instances I'm talking about were not Miles trolling looking for a response.

**Dia bando** · 03-09-2013 06:17 PM

Do you no something, we are responsible Bin Laden we backed and supported him, remember
we use dirty tricks to get what we want, this is a case of turning on your master.
We have paid dearly for backing this man, the price to pay was death and destruction, how
long will his legacy of hate carry on, how many generations I feel it's far from finished.!
Have we learn t any lessons, I really hope so, backing the wrong people sometimes can
bite you on the ass.

**VictorCharlie** · 03-09-2013 06:39 PM

Dia,

That is an atrociously inaccurate and uninformed post. If you want to say that many of the issues the US has in the middle east stem from piss poor intervention on our part I can agree but to suggest UBL's creation of AQ and the subsequent terrorist attacks that AQ has taken credit for is a result of his and our involvement in the Muhjahedeen is just patently ignorant.

**Dia bando** · 03-09-2013 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

Dia,

That is an atrociously inaccurate and uninformed post. If you want to say that many of the issues the US has in the middle east stem from piss poor intervention on our part I can agree but to suggest UBL's creation of AQ and the subsequent terrorist attacks that AQ has taken credit for is a result of his and our involvement in the Muhjahedeen is just patently ignorant.

Not the US us as well, remember Victor we are UBL's backer we trained them, supplied them with
weapons did we not. So in a round about way, we helped create what he became weather we like it
or not. We Fucked up did we not,! the middle East is a melting pot who do you back today friends, but
tomorrow your foes.
Victor you or I cannot solve, the problems in the middle east it's far to complected, politics is a dirty
business, on our side terrorists on there side some would say freedom fighters.!
Remember Britain , is responsible for the middle east from Laurence of Arabia to the 2and WW backing the strong , remember we had a Empire we fucked ever one over, sometimes you pay
for your indiscretions.!

**VictorCharlie** · 03-09-2013 07:38 PM

When exactly did a western power train, support or back UBL? For a brief period we held a common interest in the Soviet/Afghan war. The US supported the Muhj by giving money and supplies through a Pak ISI proxy and UBL supported them financially and largely by creating training camps and schools.

**Dia bando** · 03-09-2013 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

When exactly did a western power train, support or back UBL? For a brief period we held a common interest in the Soviet/Afghan war. The US supported the Muhj by giving money and supplies through a Pak ISI proxy and UBL supported them financially and largely by creating training camps and schools.

You said it there Soviet/Afghan war, US supplied stinger missiles UBL , was there was he not we
can not put our heads in the sand. Come on plenty of dirty dealing went on,! we are on a need
to no bases. Remember in time shit floats, to the top and I bet there is plenty of it.!

**VictorCharlie** · 03-09-2013 10:28 PM

We provided stingers to the Muhj fighting in Afghanistan not to UBL. UBL probably heard some rounds fired in anger but his role predominantly was setting up training camps in Pakistan. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that US aid to the Muhjahedeen led to financial or material aid to AQ.

**Mars_ax** · 03-11-2013 04:02 AM

Apparently bin Laden's son-in-law Abu Ghaith hasn't been all that active as an al-Qaida terrorist since 9/11/2001, and the years prior to that. So you've gotta wonder how big of a fish he is for the U.S. Government and U.S. law enforcement.

"U.S. officials say Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, captured last month in Turkey and now in New York, has spent most of the last decade in Iran, in some sort of confinement."

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