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    Default Re: Darren barker, yes or no?

    Depends who he fights. If he fight Qillin or Golovkin, I think he'll come up short. If he fights Geale, I think he'll win a world title. Really don't buy into Geale at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Depends who he fights. If he fight Qillin or Golovkin, I think he'll come up short. If he fights Geale, I think he'll win a world title. Really don't buy into Geale at all.
    Geale is a very good fighter, doesn't do anything special but very well rounded

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    Yes I am British and have no objectivity at all. I just blindly follow my jingoistic tendencies and ignore all evidence that contradicts this. Thank you for such a wonderful insight.

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    Is there anyone Chris Eubank Jr hasn't duffed up sparring? ()

    Barker would have a great chance against Geale. There's not much in their form and if Barker can go 11 rounds with Martinez he can outbox Geale over the distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Yes I am British and have no objectivity at all. I just blindly follow my jingoistic tendencies and ignore all evidence that contradicts this. Thank you for such a wonderful insight.
    Makes sense, you keep saying Barker will stop fighters that noone else has stopped and the only reason that comes to mind is he is British and you are British. Barker is not a big puncher and to suggest he will stop guys who are a huge step up in class is just silly.

    I have no doubt barker won't fight any of these guys because he won't take a risk and will continue to fight bums so u won't be proven wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Yes I am British and have no objectivity at all. I just blindly follow my jingoistic tendencies and ignore all evidence that contradicts this. Thank you for such a wonderful insight.
    Makes sense, you keep saying Barker will stop fighters that noone else has stopped and the only reason that comes to mind is he is British and you are British. Barker is not a big puncher and to suggest he will stop guys who are a huge step up in class is just silly.

    I have no doubt barker won't fight any of these guys because he won't take a risk and will continue to fight bums so u won't be proven wrong
    With respect I am assuming that being a boxnation subscriber you are Irish or possibly British. Being so I thought you would be reasonably familiar with Barker and realise that none of the names mentioned are a huge step up in class. If that were the case Martinez would have wiped the floor with him in a couple of rounds. He is more than ready to take fights that you deem a "risk" and more than capable. You are quite entitled to your opinion I just don't happen to share it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    Yes I am British and have no objectivity at all. I just blindly follow my jingoistic tendencies and ignore all evidence that contradicts this. Thank you for such a wonderful insight.
    Makes sense, you keep saying Barker will stop fighters that noone else has stopped and the only reason that comes to mind is he is British and you are British. Barker is not a big puncher and to suggest he will stop guys who are a huge step up in class is just silly.

    I have no doubt barker won't fight any of these guys because he won't take a risk and will continue to fight bums so u won't be proven wrong
    With respect I am assuming that being a boxnation subscriber you are Irish or possibly British. Being so I thought you would be reasonably familiar with Barker and realise that none of the names mentioned are a huge step up in class. If that were the case Martinez would have wiped the floor with him in a couple of rounds. He is more than ready to take fights that you deem a "risk" and more than capable. You are quite entitled to your opinion I just don't happen to share it.
    I am familiar with Barker. I know he looks good but its a lot easier to look get when your fighting nobodies. Martinez' style tends for him not to wipe the floor with people (in the sense getting rid of them early). Apart from Williams he hasnt stopped a fighter with a decent rec in the first half of a fight. In my opinion he did wipe the floor with Barker in that fight tho and although was close on the cards Martinez always looked in complete control and was breaking Barker down gradually.

    Quillin on the other hand is a guy who will stop guys earlier, he is very fast and strong. What I "deem" a risk is a fight which he has a good chance of losing and wont get a big payday. A fight with Quillin in the states wouldnt be a big fight, similar to that against Geale, whereas he would have got a nice payday fighting Martinez.

    Im not saying he is a shit fighter, he put up a good fight against Martinez and has been European champ. I just dont see how anyone could justify saying he would destroy the likes of Geale, Quillin etc. as there is no evidence from his previous fights to back this up. Obviously if the fights happen I hope Im wrong as we need more world champs this side of the Atlantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Depends who he fights. If he fight Qillin or Golovkin, I think he'll come up short. If he fights Geale, I think he'll win a world title. Really don't buy into Geale at all.
    Geale is a very good fighter, doesn't do anything special but very well rounded

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    I agree, I just don't think he is all that. Sturm was a decent boxer, but ran from good fights and lost a few title fights only to be awarded gift decisions. Sylvester wasn't world class. Good wins, but not great wins, and I think Barker would beat both. Geale is a decent boxer but I think Barker will walk through him if they fought. Barker is an excellent boxer too so I just don't see Geale causing Barker problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Depends who he fights. If he fight Qillin or Golovkin, I think he'll come up short. If he fights Geale, I think he'll win a world title. Really don't buy into Geale at all.
    Golovkin walks him down and stops him.

    I'm not sold on Quillin. He knocked N'Jikam down multiple times, but nearly every round that he wasn't knocked down, N'Jikam won. N'Jikam is good, however. I think that is a winnable fight for Barker, not saying he wins it, but he has a decent shot.

    Geale would probably outpoint Barker. Geale can box, but I also can see Barker beating Geale up.

    Basically, he has no shot against Golovkin, but I give him a good chance against the other titleholders.

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    Will Eddie Hearn take a risk and pay enough to get somebody like Geale or Quillin to fight in England? Barker probably wouldn't sell enough tickets to make it viable and I don't think Hearn believes in him enough to come up with the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Will Eddie Hearn take a risk and pay enough to get somebody like Geale or Quillin to fight in England? Barker probably wouldn't sell enough tickets to make it viable and I don't think Hearn believes in him enough to come up with the money.
    Barker has a good chance against Geale.
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    Barker stops Geale,Quillin, N'jikam, Lee or Proska. Not UD. TKO or KO. Rantcatrat is right about Golovkin, he stops Barker, but not the other middleweights that people are suddenly ascribing super powers too.
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    Quillan beats Barker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quillan beats Barker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Will Eddie Hearn take a risk and pay enough to get somebody like Geale or Quillin to fight in England? Barker probably wouldn't sell enough tickets to make it viable and I don't think Hearn believes in him enough to come up with the money.


    Barker has a good chance against Geale.
    Let's see if Hearn thinks so.

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