Will ONE frigging HW step up to the plate before it's too late?!?

[Spicoli]

Mike fights through serious pain...come on now guys!

[imp]

Sorry, but i agree with some of the comments about Wlad being in shape for all his fights and he does seem like a nice person.

I have to say though that if WLAD was called CHAD and was american there would be a great difference in the way he was viewed.

As well as being bigger, fitter and stronger than all his opponents he does have that scared look when fighting and only audley harrison has that same look..not being negative but its true.

This should not take away the fact he uses his jab well, but unfortunately he is haunted by the losses he had and im afraid a game green deontay wilder would end his career in three rounds but thats a risk Wlad will never take.

[El Kabong]

Yeah Mike Tyson fucking MENSA member

[Larryboy]

Stiverne is waiting on Arreola to get healthy so they can fight. That could be a great fight, hopefully they come to fight in shape and ready to brawl!

Nobody will challenge Wlad it's that simple. He's too far ahead in the game and even the best and brightest young stars won't advance fast enough to worry Wlad.

If someone like Wilder or David Price could hit Wlad on the chin then I bet that'd worry him a lot

Yes but that's an irrelevant statement.

Because if I hit Wlad on the chin it'd cause him serious problems.

Don't flatter yourself, but I get the point

Thing is, Wilder is too raw and Price is coming off of a highly improbable KO loss.

Mitchell is coming off of a less improbable, but still upset KO loss.

Like Master said though, if they hit the jackpot it sure would be fun to watch.

Not to nitpick when it's not really the point of the thread, but Tony Thompson was a long time top 10 heavyweight who's really big and Jonathon Banks is a smallish ex-cruiserweight who'd been ko'd in his only notably fight in that division. I wouldn't say Prices loss was worse than Mitchells for a highly favoured fighter.

Anyhow, really the only fight that'd be a good match on paper would be Wlad-Povetkin, and in reality Wlad's just too big for him. It'd seem one side or the other really doesn't want that fight seeing as Povetkin became Wlads mandatory more than 4 bleeding years ago and they still haven't fought.

[IamInuit]

I thought Perez was going to start to steamroll and get into a position to challenge. Perhaps he's drunk with freedom. Maybe Sturm is sitting on him but dam I was starting to have Savon flashbacks. Whats he waiting for? If the division gets anymore ripe it will be top soil.

[TysonBomb]

Tyson has a better vocabulary than any of the kitturds, if you've heard him speak (when serious) you would notice that. I'd venture to say he had a more extensive and broad vocab than any boxer ever.

Yeah, Mike was a regular silver-tongued politician.

"I want to kill people. I want to rip their stomachs out and eat their children"

"I'm 36 going on 36"

"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian"

HAHAHAHAHAH fuckin Mike what a goof

being on a cocktail of drugs and alcohol abuse will make anyone sound like that, especially when trying to sell a fight

Mike wasn't a MENSA member but the man did have a very good vocabulary.

[Master]

The real challengers to Wlad are aiming for the WBC title that is being held by Vitali who is on the verge of retiring. The super heavies like Tyson Fury and Price (eventually) will be the real challenges to Wlad when they get their hands on the title and try to unify it.

[IamInuit]

The real challengers to Wlad are aiming for the WBC title that is being held by Vitali who is on the verge of retiring. The super heavies like Tyson Fury and Price (eventually) will be the real challenges to Wlad when they get their hands on the title and try to unify it.

Wlad probably has an iron clad contract in place to have first crack at his brothers title.

[Master]

The real challengers to Wlad are aiming for the WBC title that is being held by Vitali who is on the verge of retiring. The super heavies like Tyson Fury and Price (eventually) will be the real challenges to Wlad when they get their hands on the title and try to unify it.

Wlad probably has an iron clad contract in place to have first crack at his brothers title.

Probably but hope some super heavy wins it first and makes some defenses and then gives Wlad a real good challenge.

[El Kabong]

The level of competition is beneath Wladimir, it just is. Wlad will keep on defending his titles and catching hell because nobody is as dedicated to their craft or as skilled at their craft as he is...just the truth right now.

Now Klitschko's aside, this division is very competitive and there are fights everyone will like to see because you don't already know the outcome. Arreola-Stiverne is one I want to see (especially if they come to fight in shape), I think Wilder vs Fury should be made sooner rather than later or Jennings vs Fury, Jennings vs Povetkin, Arreola or Stiverne vs Povetkin, Fury vs Pulev, Adamek vs Jennings, Helenius vs Jennings, Helenius vs Arreola, Helenius vs Fury, Thompson vs Helenius, Fury vs Thompson....there are some interesting fights out there and I would like to see them, but I'm coming from a perspective where I don't see the division as a failure, I just see the level where the fights start to get competitive as below the championship level and more the contender level which means Wlad won't be tested but 2nd place is up for grabs

[TitoFan]

The level of competition is beneath Wladimir, it just is. Wlad will keep on defending his titles and catching hell because nobody is as dedicated to their craft or as skilled at their craft as he is...just the truth right now.

Now Klitschko's aside, this division is very competitive and there are fights everyone will like to see because you don't already know the outcome. Arreola-Stiverne is one I want to see (especially if they come to fight in shape), I think Wilder vs Fury should be made sooner rather than later or Jennings vs Fury, Jennings vs Povetkin, Arreola or Stiverne vs Povetkin, Fury vs Pulev, Adamek vs Jennings, Helenius vs Jennings, Helenius vs Arreola, Helenius vs Fury, Thompson vs Helenius, Fury vs Thompson....there are some interesting fights out there and I would like to see them, but I'm coming from a perspective where I don't see the division as a failure, I just see the level where the fights start to get competitive as below the championship level and more the contender level which means Wlad won't be tested but 2nd place is up for grabs

Some of these fighters you mention will likely fail to reach the elite level... others will survive. Regardless.... had this group been coming up 5 years ago instead of now, Wlad's eventual place in history would've been different... and it would've been one of two possible scenarios:

At least one, maybe more, of these guys would've come to fight Wlad without fear... and he would've tested Wlad's chin and resolve, with one of the following results:

Either

a) Wlad would've shown the world that the days of Sanders and Brewster are behind him, and he would've survived whatever onslaught was coming, and won the fight, maybe in epic fashion. Or.......

b) Wlad would've been tagged good, and it would've been Sanders and Brewster all over again.


We'll never know, because by the time the survivors among these young pups are ready to challenge Wlad, Wlad will be close to retirement and he may just choose to go that route rather than risk a near-perfect record for the sake of an epic, career-defining fight.

[El Kabong]

This should REALLY piss off quite a few people. Dan Rafael was asked in his chat today "Wladimir Klitschko of today vs pre-Bowe I Evander Holyfield who do you have?".....Dan replied "Wladimir"


That's not ME saying it, that's Dan saying it....so direct all anger at him

[#1FightFan]

what about Solis & Charr they were doing well before they were injured with cuts/knee accident! in fact charr was starting to get to Vitali!!!

[TitoFan]

Well..... hopefully, Solis will do a few leg presses before getting into the ring with a Klitschko again.

[0james0]

B-Hop is your man.