Muhammad Ali and the wins that should never have been.

[IamInuit]

If you want to narrow it down to one fight then show me a round by round Jimmy Young card. I would like to know how any serious fight fan could award that to Ali. Break it down for me round by round.

[Galaxy]

Yeah the Young fight should of never been a victory

[Mars_ax]

FWIW, I've always thought Big George 'should' have won, but he fought a stupid fight and let Ali psych him out. I'm not taking anything away from Ali, he had a brilliant plan, just sayin' it was George's fight to win and he blew it.

As for Frazier - Ali III, that was just painful to watch, as far as i'm concerned, there was no winner, both pugs lost.

[johnmaff36]

Look, Ali was ahead when he KO'd Foreman so he was doing a lot more than lying on ropes. Nothing dodgy about it, Ali won.

Manila? The correct call by Futch. Ali was ahead and Joe needed a KO which he was in no state to deliver.

Jimmy Young? A terrible terrible fight that,if possible, no man deserved to win. Young hung out the ropes, showed no williness to go grab the title and Ali wasnt much better. Certainly not a robbery.

Norton 3. If kenny got the nod i could not have argued as it was close,HOWEVER, close decisions do not equate to robbery. It was tight, but thats it. No robbery here.

Doug Jones. Again, same kinda scenario as norton 3 only not as much of an argument as kenny may have had. I gave Ali 6 rounds to 4 the 3 or 4 times ive watched it and thats giving Jones every benifit of doubt. Again, a close fight but certainly no robbery.

Shavers? Again, no robbery.

In my opinion a robbery is when a fighter CLEARLY wins a fight and doesnt get the decision. None of the above fights fit that bill. Yes some where close. Yes, one could not have argued if the decision went the other way in 2 of them, but again, a close fight does not equate to robbery

[erics44]

i think if foreman and ali fought at the time they did 100 times foreman would have won a vast majority of them

i just think ali caught him at exactly the right time and in exactly the right place

[IamInuit]

Jimmy Young? A terrible terrible fight that,if possible, no man deserved to win. Young hung out the ropes, showed no williness to go grab the title and Ali wasnt much better. Certainly not a robbery

Whata crock.

[johnmaff36]

Jimmy Young? A terrible terrible fight that,if possible, no man deserved to win. Young hung out the ropes, showed no williness to go grab the title and Ali wasnt much better. Certainly not a robbery

Whata crock.

care to elaborate?

[denilson200]

Look, Ali was ahead when he KO'd Foreman so he was doing a lot more than lying on ropes. Nothing dodgy about it, Ali won.

Manila? The correct call by Futch. Ali was ahead and Joe needed a KO which he was in no state to deliver.

Jimmy Young? A terrible terrible fight that,if possible, no man deserved to win. Young hung out the ropes, showed no williness to go grab the title and Ali wasnt much better. Certainly not a robbery.

Norton 3. If kenny got the nod i could not have argued as it was close,HOWEVER, close decisions do not equate to robbery. It was tight, but thats it. No robbery here.

Doug Jones. Again, same kinda scenario as norton 3 only not as much of an argument as kenny may have had. I gave Ali 6 rounds to 4 the 3 or 4 times ive watched it and thats giving Jones every benifit of doubt. Again, a close fight but certainly no robbery.

Shavers? Again, no robbery.

In my opinion a robbery is when a fighter CLEARLY wins a fight and doesnt get the decision. None of the above fights fit that bill. Yes some where close. Yes, one could not have argued if the decision went the other way in 2 of them, but again, a close fight does not equate to robbery

Good post.

Norton and Jones were close fights but as we know the challenger has to take the title and in close decisions the champ usually get's it. It was hardly Roy Jones 88 Olympics type robbery

[kyoto]

Ali was the greatest because of his character Bet he is our hero

[ray corso]

The "idiot" in Georges corner was Legendary "Archie Moore" thank you for your expert observation hahahaha!!! The thriller was Ali's fight at the end and Joe needed a KO to win, simple as that. It was a struggle for both men who were natural foes from years gone by! They had that special match up of "Styles" that produced great competion! Ray.