Darren barker, yes or no?

[Beanz]

Yes I am British and have no objectivity at all. I just blindly follow my jingoistic tendencies and ignore all evidence that contradicts this. Thank you for such a wonderful insight.

Makes sense, you keep saying Barker will stop fighters that noone else has stopped and the only reason that comes to mind is he is British and you are British. Barker is not a big puncher and to suggest he will stop guys who are a huge step up in class is just silly.

I have no doubt barker won't fight any of these guys because he won't take a risk and will continue to fight bums so u won't be proven wrong

With respect I am assuming that being a boxnation subscriber you are Irish or possibly British. Being so I thought you would be reasonably familiar with Barker and realise that none of the names mentioned are a huge step up in class. If that were the case Martinez would have wiped the floor with him in a couple of rounds. He is more than ready to take fights that you deem a "risk" and more than capable. You are quite entitled to your opinion I just don't happen to share it.

[Silkeyjoe]

Yes I am British and have no objectivity at all. I just blindly follow my jingoistic tendencies and ignore all evidence that contradicts this. Thank you for such a wonderful insight.

Makes sense, you keep saying Barker will stop fighters that noone else has stopped and the only reason that comes to mind is he is British and you are British. Barker is not a big puncher and to suggest he will stop guys who are a huge step up in class is just silly.

I have no doubt barker won't fight any of these guys because he won't take a risk and will continue to fight bums so u won't be proven wrong

With respect I am assuming that being a boxnation subscriber you are Irish or possibly British. Being so I thought you would be reasonably familiar with Barker and realise that none of the names mentioned are a huge step up in class. If that were the case Martinez would have wiped the floor with him in a couple of rounds. He is more than ready to take fights that you deem a "risk" and more than capable. You are quite entitled to your opinion I just don't happen to share it.

I am familiar with Barker. I know he looks good but its a lot easier to look get when your fighting nobodies. Martinez' style tends for him not to wipe the floor with people (in the sense getting rid of them early). Apart from Williams he hasnt stopped a fighter with a decent rec in the first half of a fight. In my opinion he did wipe the floor with Barker in that fight tho and although was close on the cards Martinez always looked in complete control and was breaking Barker down gradually.

Quillin on the other hand is a guy who will stop guys earlier, he is very fast and strong. What I "deem" a risk is a fight which he has a good chance of losing and wont get a big payday. A fight with Quillin in the states wouldnt be a big fight, similar to that against Geale, whereas he would have got a nice payday fighting Martinez.

Im not saying he is a shit fighter, he put up a good fight against Martinez and has been European champ. I just dont see how anyone could justify saying he would destroy the likes of Geale, Quillin etc. as there is no evidence from his previous fights to back this up. Obviously if the fights happen I hope Im wrong as we need more world champs this side of the Atlantic.