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    Default Re: Darren barker, yes or no?

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    Will Eddie Hearn take a risk and pay enough to get somebody like Geale or Quillin to fight in England? Barker probably wouldn't sell enough tickets to make it viable and I don't think Hearn believes in him enough to come up with the money.
    Hearn's already had fighters, in the past two years, challenge for world titles abroad on other promotions.

    Whether he stages the fight or not, unlike FW, it looks like his fighters will take their chances.
    And they've all lost. You make money as a promoter by getting your guys big fights they can win in front of big crowds in events you promote. You take a punt on your guys and pay foreign world champions to come to England and fight your guy when you think your guy can win, which is what Warren's MO has been. Then you cash in promoting your world champion.

    Hearn seems quite willing to send his guys abroad to be the opponent fighter on other promoters' bills. The only guy he's so far put the money up to do that with if Froch for the Bute fight and he was helped by the fact that Bute was desperate to fight in Nottingham.
    Either way it's irrelevant to us boxing fans, right? Why would you care what the promoter makes?

    Surely we just want to see the best match-ups, and if that means British fighters chancing their arm abroad that's a good thing? Please let this finally be the end of the Warren mismatch model
    Fair enough, we get to find out how good they actually are when they're the opponent for the house fighter but then how do you support any kind of major promotional setup when your guys have all been beaten?

    Barker/Rees/etc aren't going to sell many tickets after they've shown they're short of world class. No British boxer is going to h ave a very long career if they're permanantly put into tough fights, have to fight abroad a lot and so on.

    Right now there's only Froch that Hearn seems willing to back with serious money. If/when Hearn does invest money in young pros and brings them through to world level is he going to throw them into fights abroad or do what Warren does, wait for an aged champ he thinks his guy can beat (Tszyu) or get him a vacant belt (Cleverly)?
    There is a middle way.
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    Default Re: Darren barker, yes or no?

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    Will Eddie Hearn take a risk and pay enough to get somebody like Geale or Quillin to fight in England? Barker probably wouldn't sell enough tickets to make it viable and I don't think Hearn believes in him enough to come up with the money.
    Hearn's already had fighters, in the past two years, challenge for world titles abroad on other promotions.

    Whether he stages the fight or not, unlike FW, it looks like his fighters will take their chances.
    And they've all lost. You make money as a promoter by getting your guys big fights they can win in front of big crowds in events you promote. You take a punt on your guys and pay foreign world champions to come to England and fight your guy when you think your guy can win, which is what Warren's MO has been. Then you cash in promoting your world champion.

    Hearn seems quite willing to send his guys abroad to be the opponent fighter on other promoters' bills. The only guy he's so far put the money up to do that with if Froch for the Bute fight and he was helped by the fact that Bute was desperate to fight in Nottingham.
    Either way it's irrelevant to us boxing fans, right? Why would you care what the promoter makes?

    Surely we just want to see the best match-ups, and if that means British fighters chancing their arm abroad that's a good thing? Please let this finally be the end of the Warren mismatch model
    Fair enough, we get to find out how good they actually are when they're the opponent for the house fighter but then how do you support any kind of major promotional setup when your guys have all been beaten?

    Barker/Rees/etc aren't going to sell many tickets after they've shown they're short of world class. No British boxer is going to h ave a very long career if they're permanantly put into tough fights, have to fight abroad a lot and so on.

    Right now there's only Froch that Hearn seems willing to back with serious money. If/when Hearn does invest money in young pros and brings them through to world level is he going to throw them into fights abroad or do what Warren does, wait for an aged champ he thinks his guy can beat (Tszyu) or get him a vacant belt (Cleverly)?
    There is a middle way.
    What is it?

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    Default Re: Darren barker, yes or no?

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    Will Eddie Hearn take a risk and pay enough to get somebody like Geale or Quillin to fight in England? Barker probably wouldn't sell enough tickets to make it viable and I don't think Hearn believes in him enough to come up with the money.
    Hearn's already had fighters, in the past two years, challenge for world titles abroad on other promotions.

    Whether he stages the fight or not, unlike FW, it looks like his fighters will take their chances.
    And they've all lost. You make money as a promoter by getting your guys big fights they can win in front of big crowds in events you promote. You take a punt on your guys and pay foreign world champions to come to England and fight your guy when you think your guy can win, which is what Warren's MO has been. Then you cash in promoting your world champion.

    Hearn seems quite willing to send his guys abroad to be the opponent fighter on other promoters' bills. The only guy he's so far put the money up to do that with if Froch for the Bute fight and he was helped by the fact that Bute was desperate to fight in Nottingham.
    Either way it's irrelevant to us boxing fans, right? Why would you care what the promoter makes?

    Surely we just want to see the best match-ups, and if that means British fighters chancing their arm abroad that's a good thing? Please let this finally be the end of the Warren mismatch model
    Fair enough, we get to find out how good they actually are when they're the opponent for the house fighter but then how do you support any kind of major promotional setup when your guys have all been beaten?

    Barker/Rees/etc aren't going to sell many tickets after they've shown they're short of world class. No British boxer is going to h ave a very long career if they're permanantly put into tough fights, have to fight abroad a lot and so on.

    Right now there's only Froch that Hearn seems willing to back with serious money. If/when Hearn does invest money in young pros and brings them through to world level is he going to throw them into fights abroad or do what Warren does, wait for an aged champ he thinks his guy can beat (Tszyu) or get him a vacant belt (Cleverly)?
    There is a middle way.
    What is it?
    It is the one in between the two extremes.
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