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    Default Re: fury v cunningham

    I live in hope for one.

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    I'm almost 100% certain that Cunningham is a better boxer than anyone Fury has face before. He'll be in great shape, which none of Fury's opponents have been really. He'll more than likely let punches go in a calculated and skillful manner, unlike almost ALL of Fury's previous opponents. I think Cunningham will beat Fury, by UD.

    Lets have a quick look back at Fury's recent opponents.

    Kevin Johnson
    Vinny Maddalone
    Martin Rogan
    Neven Pajkic
    Nicolai Firtha
    Derek Chisora
    Marcelo Nascimento

    Chisora is the best of them all IMO and was WAY out of shape against Fury. The rest are absolutely NO WHERE NEAR WORLD LEVEL. To go from these opponents, to then fighting in Madison Square Garden, although only against Cunningham, is a big step up. Fury is getting DECKED sooner or later, doubtful by Cunningham. For a guy that gets on the back foot against someone like Johnson who isn't even letting punches go, god knows what he'll do when faced with a seriuos challenge. Probably be jumping the top rope. I actually hope he beats Cunningham and we see one of the Klits absolutely smash the dude in to next week. Failing that, seeing him in with Tony Thompson and getting floored would almost be as much fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    I'm almost 100% certain that Cunningham is a better boxer than anyone Fury has face before. He'll be in great shape, which none of Fury's opponents have been really. He'll more than likely let punches go in a calculated and skillful manner, unlike almost ALL of Fury's previous opponents. I think Cunningham will beat Fury, by UD.

    Lets have a quick look back at Fury's recent opponents.

    Kevin Johnson
    Vinny Maddalone
    Martin Rogan
    Neven Pajkic
    Nicolai Firtha
    Derek Chisora
    Marcelo Nascimento

    Chisora is the best of them all IMO and was WAY out of shape against Fury. The rest are absolutely NO WHERE NEAR WORLD LEVEL. To go from these opponents, to then fighting in Madison Square Garden, although only against Cunningham, is a big step up. Fury is getting DECKED sooner or later, doubtful by Cunningham. For a guy that gets on the back foot against someone like Johnson who isn't even letting punches go, god knows what he'll do when faced with a seriuos challenge. Probably be jumping the top rope. I actually hope he beats Cunningham and we see one of the Klits absolutely smash the dude in to next week. Failing that, seeing him in with Tony Thompson and getting floored would almost be as much fun.
    i agree with your points on furys opponents and the fact that cunningham is miles above anything he has faced despite being in a lower weight class

    this is why i raise the point of a potential upset in the first place

    you do seem like a hater tho so perhaps your passion for an upset is clouding your judgement
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    Cunningham doesn't have the punching power to trouble Fury, but he's a decent boxer and if he can avoid getting hurt he could win. Cunningham has given Adamek Hell TWICE...I think he could quite possibly score the upset especially since the fight is in New York and not England. This is Tyson Fury's very first fight in America and if you'll recall some British fighters have trouble when they are being hyped up as "the next big thing" and fight in the US, Hatton-Collazo comes to mind.


    Fury should gun for a KO because if he doesn't hurt Cunningham then even more questions will be raised about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Cunningham doesn't have the punching power to trouble Fury, but he's a decent boxer and if he can avoid getting hurt he could win. Cunningham has given Adamek Hell TWICE...I think he could quite possibly score the upset especially since the fight is in New York and not England. This is Tyson Fury's very first fight in America and if you'll recall some British fighters have trouble when they are being hyped up as "the next big thing" and fight in the US, Hatton-Collazo comes to mind.


    Fury should gun for a KO because if he doesn't hurt Cunningham then even more questions will be raised about him.
    hatton v collazo was a completely different situation

    Hatton was already world champion and an experienced espatblished fighter with some very good wins behind him including against a fighter considered the best in the division

    Hatton was moving up in weight against a world champion at short notice

    Fury isnt a world champion and hasnt fought anywhere near that level and he is fighting someone smaller than him who isnt a world champion either

    the main difference is the experience between the fighters

    if you want to make comparisons, david haye v carl thompson, david price v tony thompson
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    hatton v collazo was a completely different situation

    Hatton was already world champion and an experienced espatblished fighter with some very good wins behind him including against a fighter considered the best in the division

    Hatton was moving up in weight against a world champion at short notice

    Fury isnt a world champion and hasnt fought anywhere near that level and he is fighting someone smaller than him who isnt a world champion either

    the main difference is the experience between the fighters

    if you want to make comparisons, david haye v carl thompson, david price v tony thompson
    #1 Hatton wasn't a world champion at 147 which is where he fought Collazo

    and

    #2 I know the differences in the fights, yes Hatton was far more experienced than Fury is now...the point is they're both being sold to the American fight fans ergo there's a touch more pressure to perform and SOME fighters don't react well to such pressure. I don't think that pressure bothered Hatton so much as he just couldn't handle 147 at all, but still he pushed himself hard in that fight to make a good impression with the fans.

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    the point is that we have a young inexperienced fighter "stepping up" for the first time

    thats definately something that couldnt be said about hatton going into the collazo fight

    the point of the thread isnt how british fighters have struggled when fighting in america for the first time

    2 completely different topics

    why dont you start a new thread if you want to talk about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Cunningham doesn't have the punching power to trouble Fury
    Maybe Fury could help out with an uppercut or two
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    I'm almost 100% certain that Cunningham is a better boxer than anyone Fury has face before. He'll be in great shape, which none of Fury's opponents have been really. He'll more than likely let punches go in a calculated and skillful manner, unlike almost ALL of Fury's previous opponents. I think Cunningham will beat Fury, by UD.

    Lets have a quick look back at Fury's recent opponents.

    Kevin Johnson
    Vinny Maddalone
    Martin Rogan
    Neven Pajkic
    Nicolai Firtha
    Derek Chisora
    Marcelo Nascimento

    Chisora is the best of them all IMO and was WAY out of shape against Fury. The rest are absolutely NO WHERE NEAR WORLD LEVEL. To go from these opponents, to then fighting in Madison Square Garden, although only against Cunningham, is a big step up. Fury is getting DECKED sooner or later, doubtful by Cunningham. For a guy that gets on the back foot against someone like Johnson who isn't even letting punches go, god knows what he'll do when faced with a seriuos challenge. Probably be jumping the top rope. I actually hope he beats Cunningham and we see one of the Klits absolutely smash the dude in to next week. Failing that, seeing him in with Tony Thompson and getting floored would almost be as much fun.
    i agree with your points on furys opponents and the fact that cunningham is miles above anything he has faced despite being in a lower weight class

    this is why i raise the point of a potential upset in the first place

    you do seem like a hater tho so perhaps your passion for an upset is clouding your judgement
    Definitely not a hater, so lets put that one to bed straight away sir........

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    I'm almost 100% certain that Cunningham is a better boxer than anyone Fury has face before. He'll be in great shape, which none of Fury's opponents have been really. He'll more than likely let punches go in a calculated and skillful manner, unlike almost ALL of Fury's previous opponents. I think Cunningham will beat Fury, by UD.

    Lets have a quick look back at Fury's recent opponents.

    Kevin Johnson
    Vinny Maddalone
    Martin Rogan
    Neven Pajkic
    Nicolai Firtha
    Derek Chisora
    Marcelo Nascimento

    Chisora is the best of them all IMO and was WAY out of shape against Fury. The rest are absolutely NO WHERE NEAR WORLD LEVEL. To go from these opponents, to then fighting in Madison Square Garden, although only against Cunningham, is a big step up. Fury is getting DECKED sooner or later, doubtful by Cunningham. For a guy that gets on the back foot against someone like Johnson who isn't even letting punches go, god knows what he'll do when faced with a seriuos challenge. Probably be jumping the top rope. I actually hope he beats Cunningham and we see one of the Klits absolutely smash the dude in to next week. Failing that, seeing him in with Tony Thompson and getting floored would almost be as much fun.
    i agree with your points on furys opponents and the fact that cunningham is miles above anything he has faced despite being in a lower weight class

    this is why i raise the point of a potential upset in the first place

    you do seem like a hater tho so perhaps your passion for an upset is clouding your judgement
    Definitely not a hater, so lets put that one to bed straight away sir........
    just a few points you made pointed that way
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    Cunningham is right. Fury only wins fights cuz he's big. Shrink him to 6'1 or 6'2 and he's garbage

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    Not sure how you go about shrinking someone

    But Cunningham is by far the most difficult opponent Fury has faced

    I'd love to see Fury get schooled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Cunningham is right. Fury only wins fights cuz he's big. Shrink him to 6'1 or 6'2 and he's garbage

    absolutely true, hes a decent boxer with decent power but his size is by far his best weopon

    but you could say similar about most fighters

    wlad is only long standing hw champ coz of his size

    mayweather is only lb4lb coz of his speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Cunningham is right. Fury only wins fights cuz he's big. Shrink him to 6'1 or 6'2 and he's garbage
    But he is big, so I don't see the point. If Floyd wasn't so fast, he wouldn't be undefeated. You could hypothetically take any fighter's main tools away and it could change the outcome of a fight.

    For the record, he wins fights because his opposition isn't up to scratch. Even at 6'7", I think he's nothing special. He'll get shown up as soon as he fights a puncher.

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