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    Default Re: What is Hopkins' place in boxing history?

    He's an all-time great. Not top, top level, but a great nonetheless.

    There are two questions with regard to Hopkins' ranking: where should he be ranked all-time as a middleweight and where should he be ranked all-time in general?

    I understand the man is 48, but it is probably best to wait until he 100% retired before we make an assessment. What if he beat the reigning super middleweight champion in Andre Ward?

    As a middleweight, his reign was long, but his challengers weren't of the elite variety for the most part. He didn't face Toney and he lost to a prime Roy Jones. Who were his best wins at middleweight? Glen Johnson, Oscar De La Hoya, Felix Trinidad. Am I missing anyone?

    In my opinion, he actually faced better competition above middleweight, coming up short in some fights (Calzaghe, Dawson), but beating others, Pascal, Wright, Tarver, Cloud and Pavlik.

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    Default Re: What is Hopkins' place in boxing history?

    He's still a TWAT.

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    Default Re: What is Hopkins' place in boxing history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    He's an all-time great. Not top, top level, but a great nonetheless.

    There are two questions with regard to Hopkins' ranking: where should he be ranked all-time as a middleweight and where should he be ranked all-time in general?

    I understand the man is 48, but it is probably best to wait until he 100% retired before we make an assessment. What if he beat the reigning super middleweight champion in Andre Ward?

    As a middleweight, his reign was long, but his challengers weren't of the elite variety for the most part. He didn't face Toney and he lost to a prime Roy Jones. Who were his best wins at middleweight? Glen Johnson, Oscar De La Hoya, Felix Trinidad. Am I missing anyone?

    In my opinion, he actually faced better competition above middleweight, coming up short in some fights (Calzaghe, Dawson), but beating others, Pascal, Wright, Tarver, Cloud and Pavlik.
    I think he beat Calazaghe, Taylor and Pascal in the 1st fight. His only true loss since well Roy Jones IMO is Dawson.

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    Default Re: What is Hopkins' place in boxing history?

    Legend and all time great. Where? We'll wait until he officially retires to judge but he is without a doubt one of the craftiest, self determined and technically sound professional boxers I've ever seen climb into a ring, live or on tape. He can say he literally did it his way and frankly I can admire his mindset as much as his skill.

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