despite what both have become now... back in da day, they were legit MAists prior to making movies
although aikido may be ridiculed, SS attained IIRC the highest level an aikidoist can get that has NOT trained directly the founder, Morihei Ueshiba
JCVD won some kickboxing titles.
for that I respect them, for their movies i respect them, anything after their 15 mins of fame, well, nuff said. lol
"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, & good stickgrappling & can keep track of all 3 simultaneously. This is a good trick & can be quite effective." - Marc 'Crafty Dog' Denny
And we all know who's over the top...
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How did he manage to pull Kelly Lebrock, she was so hot.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Funny guy but he runs like a girl.
Well, he used to until he started wearing that black leatrher jacket zipped up from his toes to his neck to hide his gut
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