2013-02-23 Vyacheslav Glazkov vs Malik Scott- thoughts and views!

[Hulk]

I watched this bout and thought Scott out scored his opponent 3 to 1 and landed the more meaningfull shots 2 to 1. he used the tiny (for heavyweights) ring looked to be 17'10"" to his advanage actually. He engaged then walked across the ring (3 steps) then beat his opponent to the punch throughout the entire match. It was uneventfull but clearly a decision win but as Mr. Scott said immediately after the fight he fought a Main Events fighter on a Main Events card came in short notice and they fought in a ring that was too small for heavies! My surprise was Ms. Letermans score card, she's usually consistant and does see intriquicies that others miss. I think she scored it even, a joke! It reminded me of Adimeks fight, the fact that your moving forward is important to me but you have to score and neither of these "slow footed slow handed" fighters did! If they moved their hands as much or as often as their opponents they'd recieve more props! Scott was far more busy and more accurate than Cunningham was.
Scott did moer than enough to win, it really wasn't close at all!! Ray.

Yep. Some people will just disagree with the obvious to get attention and a rise out of others.

[Silkeyjoe]

I watched this bout and thought Scott out scored his opponent 3 to 1 and landed the more meaningfull shots 2 to 1. he used the tiny (for heavyweights) ring looked to be 17'10"" to his advanage actually. He engaged then walked across the ring (3 steps) then beat his opponent to the punch throughout the entire match. It was uneventfull but clearly a decision win but as Mr. Scott said immediately after the fight he fought a Main Events fighter on a Main Events card came in short notice and they fought in a ring that was too small for heavies! My surprise was Ms. Letermans score card, she's usually consistant and does see intriquicies that others miss. I think she scored it even, a joke! It reminded me of Adimeks fight, the fact that your moving forward is important to me but you have to score and neither of these "slow footed slow handed" fighters did! If they moved their hands as much or as often as their opponents they'd recieve more props! Scott was far more busy and more accurate than Cunningham was.
Scott did moer than enough to win, it really wasn't close at all!! Ray.

Yep. Some people will just disagree with the obvious to get attention and a rise out of others.

Exactly, I saw this thread when there were no additional comments and decided not to reply because the starter was clearly clueless and has no understanding of boxing. "Smaller ring" Why not just tie them together with a rope?

[ykdadamaja]

I watched this bout and thought Scott out scored his opponent 3 to 1 and landed the more meaningfull shots 2 to 1. he used the tiny (for heavyweights) ring looked to be 17'10"" to his advanage actually. He engaged then walked across the ring (3 steps) then beat his opponent to the punch throughout the entire match. It was uneventfull but clearly a decision win but as Mr. Scott said immediately after the fight he fought a Main Events fighter on a Main Events card came in short notice and they fought in a ring that was too small for heavies! My surprise was Ms. Letermans score card, she's usually consistant and does see intriquicies that others miss. I think she scored it even, a joke! It reminded me of Adimeks fight, the fact that your moving forward is important to me but you have to score and neither of these "slow footed slow handed" fighters did! If they moved their hands as much or as often as their opponents they'd recieve more props! Scott was far more busy and more accurate than Cunningham was.
Scott did moer than enough to win, it really wasn't close at all!! Ray.

Yep. Some people will just disagree with the obvious to get attention and a rise out of others.

Exactly, I saw this thread when there were no additional comments and decided not to reply because the starter was clearly clueless and has no understanding of boxing. "Smaller ring" Why not just tie them together with a rope?

You are the one that's clueless. Ring size means a lot to a fight at times- ring size and tight/stiff ropes.

Scott did not deserve to win this fight. Period. The same argument can be applied to the DLH/Trinidad fight to certain extent- just that DLH did more to win the fight up until the 11th round to get the nod. Scott stopped fighting at about the 7-8th round, and Glazkov tired- but still was coming forward.

You can't be a champion on weak stuff like that. Let them fight again, 16ft ring, 8oz gloves (the Reyes punchers gloves) and let's see a fight, not a pitty-patter dance party!

Skills comes out when you are tested. Nothin tests your metal in contact sports than when you are hit or involved in a supremely physical task. That's why we watch- not for a dance party with love taps!

[Freedom]

I thought BJ Flores was ridiculously biased in his commentary.

I watched it first on Russia 2 and scored it a draw. But then when I watched if on a video of the NBC telecast I could understand how BJ Flores could have swayed some viewers into believing Scott won. He did the same thing in the Adamek-Chambers and Adamek-Cunningham fights.

Flores is awful, he's basically just a cheerleader for American boxers.

[ykdadamaja]

I thought BJ Flores was ridiculously biased in his commentary.

I watched it first on Russia 2 and scored it a draw. But then when I watched if on a video of the NBC telecast I could understand how BJ Flores could have swayed some viewers into believing Scott won. He did the same thing in the Adamek-Chambers and Adamek-Cunningham fights.

Flores is awful, he's basically just a cheerleader for American boxers.

Flores sometimes gets carrway for American fighters.

[Silkeyjoe]

I thought BJ Flores was ridiculously biased in his commentary.

I watched it first on Russia 2 and scored it a draw. But then when I watched if on a video of the NBC telecast I could understand how BJ Flores could have swayed some viewers into believing Scott won. He did the same thing in the Adamek-Chambers and Adamek-Cunningham fights.

Flores is awful, he's basically just a cheerleader for American boxers.

I watched it on a Russian stream and scored it 97-93. Can't remember the exact round break down.

[Silkeyjoe]

I watched this bout and thought Scott out scored his opponent 3 to 1 and landed the more meaningfull shots 2 to 1. he used the tiny (for heavyweights) ring looked to be 17'10"" to his advanage actually. He engaged then walked across the ring (3 steps) then beat his opponent to the punch throughout the entire match. It was uneventfull but clearly a decision win but as Mr. Scott said immediately after the fight he fought a Main Events fighter on a Main Events card came in short notice and they fought in a ring that was too small for heavies! My surprise was Ms. Letermans score card, she's usually consistant and does see intriquicies that others miss. I think she scored it even, a joke! It reminded me of Adimeks fight, the fact that your moving forward is important to me but you have to score and neither of these "slow footed slow handed" fighters did! If they moved their hands as much or as often as their opponents they'd recieve more props! Scott was far more busy and more accurate than Cunningham was.
Scott did moer than enough to win, it really wasn't close at all!! Ray.

Yep. Some people will just disagree with the obvious to get attention and a rise out of others.

Exactly, I saw this thread when there were no additional comments and decided not to reply because the starter was clearly clueless and has no understanding of boxing. "Smaller ring" Why not just tie them together with a rope?

You are the one that's clueless. Ring size means a lot to a fight at times- ring size and tight/stiff ropes.

Scott did not deserve to win this fight. Period. The same argument can be applied to the DLH/Trinidad fight to certain extent- just that DLH did more to win the fight up until the 11th round to get the nod. Scott stopped fighting at about the 7-8th round, and Glazkov tired- but still was coming forward.

You can't be a champion on weak stuff like that. Let them fight again, 16ft ring, 8oz gloves (the Reyes punchers gloves) and let's see a fight, not a pitty-patter dance party!

Skills comes out when you are tested. Nothin tests your metal in contact sports than when you are hit or involved in a supremely physical task. That's why we watch- not for a dance party with love taps!

U really are clueless. It was already a small ring. Making a smaller ring would favours the come forward fighter. All you are looking for is action. Go watch the UFC. Boxing is an art and isn't just down to who can hit harder or take the harder shot. Jensen why people like Mayweather, Whitaker, Ali etc were such great champions.

Scott is not a big puncher and knew he could not stand toe to toe with Glazkov so he controlled the fight with his jab making Glazkov swing wild and pick him off when he did so. Of course Glazkovs punches were making Scott move back.... That was Scott's game plan. Don't get involved in the inside.

[ray corso]

I watched Scott back off, not run! Theres something to like about a fighter who moves forward ti initiate a fight however when said fighter doesn't move his hands effectively the movement is in vain. Scott moving off is the same as moving laterially, its effective movement and when the opponent nears you fire punches FIRST! Which is what he did!! Effective agressiveness is not just moving forward, Glaskov could have and should have punched more often, he didn't and was out scored.
Both fighters could have fought better ( I hope) but neither is a top ten fighter anyways (are they?)
The heavyweight division is in the clouds for a long time now, when the welters & middleweights are more successfull its not good for the sport.
The big kids (size wise) in America are more interested in NFL football & Collegiate & pro Basketball than boxing. Theres fewer and fewer boxing gyms and theres a whole revolution going on about concusions and how much trama can be absorbed before problems arise. Its a concern with a football helmit on imagine the fuss over boxing!!!!!!! Ray.

[Silkeyjoe]

I watched Scott back off, not run! Theres something to like about a fighter who moves forward ti initiate a fight however when said fighter doesn't move his hands effectively the movement is in vain. Scott moving off is the same as moving laterially, its effective movement and when the opponent nears you fire punches FIRST! Which is what he did!! Effective agressiveness is not just moving forward, Glaskov could have and should have punched more often, he didn't and was out scored.
Both fighters could have fought better ( I hope) but neither is a top ten fighter anyways (are they?)
The heavyweight division is in the clouds for a long time now, when the welters & middleweights are more successfull its not good for the sport.
The big kids (size wise) in America are more interested in NFL football & Collegiate & pro Basketball than boxing. Theres fewer and fewer boxing gyms and theres a whole revolution going on about concusions and how much trama can be absorbed before problems arise. Its a concern with a football helmit on imagine the fuss over boxing!!!!!!! Ray.

A lot of its to do with money too. A nobody in the NFL/NBA makes a lot more then the majority of boxers.

[ykdadamaja]

I watched this bout and thought Scott out scored his opponent 3 to 1 and landed the more meaningfull shots 2 to 1. he used the tiny (for heavyweights) ring looked to be 17'10"" to his advanage actually. He engaged then walked across the ring (3 steps) then beat his opponent to the punch throughout the entire match. It was uneventfull but clearly a decision win but as Mr. Scott said immediately after the fight he fought a Main Events fighter on a Main Events card came in short notice and they fought in a ring that was too small for heavies! My surprise was Ms. Letermans score card, she's usually consistant and does see intriquicies that others miss. I think she scored it even, a joke! It reminded me of Adimeks fight, the fact that your moving forward is important to me but you have to score and neither of these "slow footed slow handed" fighters did! If they moved their hands as much or as often as their opponents they'd recieve more props! Scott was far more busy and more accurate than Cunningham was.
Scott did moer than enough to win, it really wasn't close at all!! Ray.

Yep. Some people will just disagree with the obvious to get attention and a rise out of others.

Exactly, I saw this thread when there were no additional comments and decided not to reply because the starter was clearly clueless and has no understanding of boxing. "Smaller ring" Why not just tie them together with a rope?

You are the one that's clueless. Ring size means a lot to a fight at times- ring size and tight/stiff ropes.

Scott did not deserve to win this fight. Period. The same argument can be applied to the DLH/Trinidad fight to certain extent- just that DLH did more to win the fight up until the 11th round to get the nod. Scott stopped fighting at about the 7-8th round, and Glazkov tired- but still was coming forward.

You can't be a champion on weak stuff like that. Let them fight again, 16ft ring, 8oz gloves (the Reyes punchers gloves) and let's see a fight, not a pitty-patter dance party!

Skills comes out when you are tested. Nothin tests your metal in contact sports than when you are hit or involved in a supremely physical task. That's why we watch- not for a dance party with love taps!

U really are clueless. It was already a small ring. Making a smaller ring would favours the come forward fighter. All you are looking for is action. Go watch the UFC. Boxing is an art and isn't just down to who can hit harder or take the harder shot. Jensen why people like Mayweather, Whitaker, Ali etc were such great champions.

Scott is not a big puncher and knew he could not stand toe to toe with Glazkov so he controlled the fight with his jab making Glazkov swing wild and pick him off when he did so. Of course Glazkovs punches were making Scott move back.... That was Scott's game plan. Don't get involved in the inside.

Boxing is an art built around aggression. The more intense the action, the better the muscle memory and the better is the fight.

Chris Byrd wasn't a big puncher, and neither was Fres Oquendo, but they made goooooooooooooddddddddddddddddd fights to watch.

You have to bring something to the table. Scott didn't bring enough of what makes him special to the table to win this fight. The fight was a proper draw. Do it again, and if the dimensions change, I think we would have a clear winner. A champion will rise.