despite what both have become now... back in da day, they were legit MAists prior to making movies

although aikido may be ridiculed, SS attained IIRC the highest level an aikidoist can get that has NOT trained directly the founder, Morihei Ueshiba

JCVD won some kickboxing titles.

for that I respect them, for their movies i respect them, anything after their 15 mins of fame, well, nuff said. lol