Billie Joe Saunders v Matthew Hall - Boxnation Thursday Fight

[ross]

Saunders is not a strong enough puncher to keep any class middles off him. He had Hall almost gone but could not finish the smaller man. He struggles as he slows midway through a fight and allows the opponent to get closer and land as the fight goes on. Luckily for him tonight it was a smaller man but to me he just doesn't have that special something to make it to the top. Not strong enough.

[superheavyrhun]

Saunders is not a strong enough puncher to keep any class middles off him. He had Hall almost gone but could not finish the smaller man. He struggles as he slows midway through a fight and allows the opponent to get closer and land as the fight goes on. Luckily for him tonight it was a smaller man but to me he just doesn't have that special something to make it to the top. Not strong enough.

He's still a little boyish in his physique....he'll grow and become stronger over the next few years, and when he does he will become very good. Hall has only been stopped by noted heavy hitters, so I don't think that not stopping him is that big a deal for Saunders.

[erics44]

I had £30 on saunders in points at 12/5

im not overly sure what i got back is the right amount, can someone work out what they think it should be please

[J_C]

I had £30 on saunders in points at 12/5

im not overly sure what i got back is the right amount, can someone work out what they think it should be please

£102 returned (30 stake + 72 profit)

[erics44]

yeah thats what i got

soz i was being a thicko

[Fenster]

Saunders is not a strong enough puncher to keep any class middles off him. He had Hall almost gone but could not finish the smaller man. He struggles as he slows midway through a fight and allows the opponent to get closer and land as the fight goes on. Luckily for him tonight it was a smaller man but to me he just doesn't have that special something to make it to the top. Not strong enough.

He's still a little boyish in his physique....he'll grow and become stronger over the next few years, and when he does he will become very good. Hall has only been stopped by noted heavy hitters, so I don't think that not stopping him is that big a deal for Saunders.

I think he should have stopped the smaller exposed Hall and it just reconfirmed his lack of power. Like ross, I believe he'll be found wanting up in class due to a lack of strength.

Can't believe they said he might move up in weight either, surely he should be trying the opposite?

[erics44]

Saunders is not a strong enough puncher to keep any class middles off him. He had Hall almost gone but could not finish the smaller man. He struggles as he slows midway through a fight and allows the opponent to get closer and land as the fight goes on. Luckily for him tonight it was a smaller man but to me he just doesn't have that special something to make it to the top. Not strong enough.

He's still a little boyish in his physique....he'll grow and become stronger over the next few years, and when he does he will become very good. Hall has only been stopped by noted heavy hitters, so I don't think that not stopping him is that big a deal for Saunders.

I think he should have stopped the smaller exposed Hall and it just reconfirmed his lack of power. Like ross, I believe he'll be found wanting up in class due to a lack of strength.

Can't believe they said he might move up in weight either, surely he should be trying the opposite?

he doesnt look that tight at the weight does he, looks like he could have a chance of moving down

hall is a tough fella like, i dont think not stopping him at this stage of his carear is an indication of his lack of power

i think some other fights have shown that though

[Fenster]

I think his lack of power has been apparent for sometime. Hall is tough like Bradley Pryce and Nick Blackwell but you'd expect the top British middleweights to stop them. The fact BJS couldn't is quite telling.

Up in class I can see fighters walking straight through him.

[erics44]

its a pity innit, coz hes got the skills that pay the bills

[ross]

Saunders is not a strong enough puncher to keep any class middles off him. He had Hall almost gone but could not finish the smaller man. He struggles as he slows midway through a fight and allows the opponent to get closer and land as the fight goes on. Luckily for him tonight it was a smaller man but to me he just doesn't have that special something to make it to the top. Not strong enough.

He's still a little boyish in his physique....he'll grow and become stronger over the next few years, and when he does he will become very good. Hall has only been stopped by noted heavy hitters, so I don't think that not stopping him is that big a deal for Saunders.

I think he should have stopped the smaller exposed Hall and it just reconfirmed his lack of power. Like ross, I believe he'll be found wanting up in class due to a lack of strength.

Can't believe they said he might move up in weight either, surely he should be trying the opposite?

Yep, he looks as though he could move down to light middle. Look at the bodys n the top fighters, not an ounce of fat. I dont reckon hes training that hard. His power would be better. Hall came up a weight and looked better at the weight than Saunders did.

[armyash]

Thanks for the updates, just had a chance to check back in.

I think Saunders can go on and do well, not sure what to expect really, he needs to get some proper momentum going and show us something special. Looks good from what I have seen though and it doesn't hurt to be going the distance now. Good for ring fitness, if he was bashing everybody out in a couple of rounds everyone would be raving about him, but then he could cme unstuck in a long hard fight and everyone would turn on him.

He has the fitness and skills now, just needs progressively tougher opponents to keep improving and i'm sure the power will develop to bring some good stoppages. If it doesn't then a wins a win however it comes.

[ross]

Thanks for the updates, just had a chance to check back in.

I think Saunders can go on and do well, not sure what to expect really, he needs to get some proper momentum going and show us something special. Looks good from what I have seen though and it doesn't hurt to be going the distance now. Good for ring fitness, if he was bashing everybody out in a couple of rounds everyone would be raving about him, but then he could cme unstuck in a long hard fight and everyone would turn on him.

He has the fitness and skills now, just needs progressively tougher opponents to keep improving and i'm sure the power will develop to bring some good stoppages. If it doesn't then a wins a win however it comes.

He didnt purposefully carry Hall to get rounds in. He threw everything at Hall in I think the 9th round to put him away and he couldnt. He knackered himself and was very greatfull it was only a blown up british journeyman in front of him and nothing more. Also, Hall did hurt him a few times as you could see with the stupid show boating. Who needs to put a show on that they have not been hurt against a british level jouneryman?

[Master]

Skeete is a good and sometimes exciting fighter.

Saunders does lack power and if he has any intention to further his career at the highest level he should us more body punching and have the fitness to go the distance without losing concentration.