Brandon Rios vs. Mike Alvarado II - Saturday night fight/chat thread

**ray corso** · 03-31-2013 11:37 PM

Two exciting young men who fight each other beautifully!!! I'd have them in against different opponents before I'd rematch them. The way they wear & tear each other is not good for their careers and if they want to be around for a bit more they need to branch away from each other then rematch down the road! If one wins or looses it takes nothing away from their match up, not to me anyways. I don't get hung up on a fighter who has some looses, hell we all do in life and its THEIR life!
Great fight, Mike gutted it out by limiting the times they engage at the beginning up to the 8th and then actually did very well when they did engage at close quarters. To me he seemed to have better conditioning and Rios looked over trained because he was on and off all night and actually looked fatiqued at times. Might be time to bag the 140 weighin, he's in on fight night at 159 to 61lbs.
Dropping and drying out then rehydrating 14 pounds up is NOT good. Your peak weight in the gym sparring your best should be your fight weight!! Whatever that maybe, fight that way. Your not sparring one day then the next 14 pounds heavier!
Eliminate the the weighin schedule thats in place now and weigh in at 8am the day of the fight! Then you will be truer representitive of your weight class!
Why should Chavez Junior fight at 160 class and be allowed to weigh 181 for the fight? Its stupid!
If he weighs in at 160 the day of the fight he won't weigh 180+ that night, if he does he's going to get beat up (worse than he did)/// Ray

**Hulk** · 04-01-2013 07:30 AM

I was very pleasantly surprised with Alvarado. He looked like he was about to wilt early on then said "NO FUCK THIS" and bit down and outboxed Rios down the stretch, rocking him in spots. Great fight !

**beenKOed** · 04-01-2013 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by ray corso

Two exciting young men who fight each other beautifully!!! I'd have them in against different opponents before I'd rematch them. The way they wear & tear each other is not good for their careers and if they want to be around for a bit more they need to branch away from each other then rematch down the road! If one wins or looses it takes nothing away from their match up, not to me anyways. I don't get hung up on a fighter who has some looses, hell we all do in life and its THEIR life!
Great fight, Mike gutted it out by limiting the times they engage at the beginning up to the 8th and then actually did very well when they did engage at close quarters. To me he seemed to have better conditioning and Rios looked over trained because he was on and off all night and actually looked fatiqued at times. Might be time to bag the 140 weighin, he's in on fight night at 159 to 61lbs.
Dropping and drying out then rehydrating 14 pounds up is NOT good. Your peak weight in the gym sparring your best should be your fight weight!! Whatever that maybe, fight that way. Your not sparring one day then the next 14 pounds heavier!
Eliminate the the weighin schedule thats in place now and weigh in at 8am the day of the fight! Then you will be truer representitive of your weight class!
Why should Chavez Junior fight at 160 class and be allowed to weigh 181 for the fight? Its stupid!
If he weighs in at 160 the day of the fight he won't weigh 180+ that night, if he does he's going to get beat up (worse than he did)/// Ray

Boxing has seventeen weight divisions now, is there really a need for an early weigh in?
The early weigh in replaced the same day weigh in to give fighters time to rehydrate. Today, in this enriched weight division era, all the early weigh in does is protect the larger fighter from the smaller fighter.
Think about it. Who had to cut more weight? Who needs to rehydrate more? The early weigh in protects the larger fighter from the smaller fighter. I think it encourages the use of PEDS too.
Lets get back to the same day weigh in and find out who the real champions are. Same day weigh ins are reasonable and most important, they are fair to the fighter who belongs in the weight division, in my opinion.

**IamInuit** · 04-01-2013 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by ray corso

Two exciting young men who fight each other beautifully!!! I'd have them in against different opponents before I'd rematch them. The way they wear & tear each other is not good for their careers and if they want to be around for a bit more they need to branch away from each other then rematch down the road! If one wins or looses it takes nothing away from their match up, not to me anyways. I don't get hung up on a fighter who has some looses, hell we all do in life and its THEIR life!
Great fight, Mike gutted it out by limiting the times they engage at the beginning up to the 8th and then actually did very well when they did engage at close quarters. To me he seemed to have better conditioning and Rios looked over trained because he was on and off all night and actually looked fatiqued at times. Might be time to bag the 140 weighin, he's in on fight night at 159 to 61lbs.
Dropping and drying out then rehydrating 14 pounds up is NOT good. Your peak weight in the gym sparring your best should be your fight weight!! Whatever that maybe, fight that way. Your not sparring one day then the next 14 pounds heavier!
Eliminate the the weighin schedule thats in place now and weigh in at 8am the day of the fight! Then you will be truer representitive of your weight class!
Why should Chavez Junior fight at 160 class and be allowed to weigh 181 for the fight? Its stupid!
If he weighs in at 160 the day of the fight he won't weigh 180+ that night, if he does he's going to get beat up (worse than he did)///Ray

Totally agree with everything said. They could easily close a few divisions.The bold is exactly how guys like Hopkins when he was at 160, Floyd and Manny to name a few approach the game. If they were of a similar skill set to those who they have fought they most likely would not be where they are because of fighting much bigger men. Same with Armstrong. When he fought Ross he weighed under the lightweight limit. I'd like to see same day weigh ins and not the watered down version the WBC implemented last year using % points. I'm pretty sure the IBF uses same day weigh ins but would have to check. If you cant make the weight you are fighting at the day of the fight because of risk of health then don't fight there.